1 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:12,450 why why okay 2 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:15,570 we are live and here comes the intro 3 00:01:11,069 --> 00:00:30,070 [Music] 4 00:01:18,819 --> 00:01:14,350 tell me one yes okay here we go 5 00:01:21,069 --> 00:01:18,829 a good afternoon from Philadelphia Frank 6 00:01:24,039 --> 00:01:21,079 here with another edition of UFO news 7 00:01:26,620 --> 00:01:24,049 network Sunday on Easter Sunday and boy 8 00:01:28,990 --> 00:01:26,630 do we have a very special Easter basket 9 00:01:31,419 --> 00:01:29,000 for you my co-host is always chant 10 00:01:33,219 --> 00:01:31,429 Hannah a chant that why don't you bring 11 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:33,229 in and introduce our guest who really 12 00:01:38,020 --> 00:01:34,969 doesn't need any introduction but go 13 00:01:40,209 --> 00:01:38,030 ahead and do it anyway ah thank you 14 00:01:43,359 --> 00:01:40,219 Frank we have a very special show today 15 00:01:44,830 --> 00:01:43,369 with the legendary person it is my 16 00:01:47,830 --> 00:01:44,840 distinct privilege and pleasure to 17 00:01:51,370 --> 00:01:47,840 welcome a regular thank you arre for 18 00:01:53,410 --> 00:01:51,380 being on our show today hey Chuck thank 19 00:01:55,660 --> 00:01:53,420 you very much for inviting me on to your 20 00:01:58,899 --> 00:01:55,670 show you sound like two wonderful people 21 00:02:01,479 --> 00:01:58,909 and I really hope that someday we will 22 00:02:04,449 --> 00:02:01,489 meet in all Jaffa in Israel where I'm 23 00:02:07,479 --> 00:02:04,459 speaking to you from so thanks very much 24 00:02:09,819 --> 00:02:07,489 thank you very much for your generosity 25 00:02:12,220 --> 00:02:09,829 and your time and effort to be on our 26 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:12,230 show I wanted to read a little bit about 27 00:02:16,420 --> 00:02:14,510 your background for our viewer our 28 00:02:18,039 --> 00:02:16,430 listeners although you don't really need 29 00:02:19,509 --> 00:02:18,049 an introduction but I just wanted to 30 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:19,519 share a little bit about yourself with 31 00:02:26,289 --> 00:02:23,090 our listeners and that is URI is a judge 32 00:02:28,420 --> 00:02:26,299 on Israel's Got Talent his regular 33 00:02:31,059 --> 00:02:28,430 museum is located in old Jaffa is 34 00:02:32,860 --> 00:02:31,069 currently being developed and will be 35 00:02:35,620 --> 00:02:32,870 finished soon we will be talking to him 36 00:02:37,660 --> 00:02:35,630 about that Murray Geller's Fame and part 37 00:02:40,059 --> 00:02:37,670 comes from performances of spoon bending 38 00:02:42,009 --> 00:02:40,069 and other psychic feats he has appeared 39 00:02:44,340 --> 00:02:42,019 in various television shows across the 40 00:02:47,020 --> 00:02:44,350 world that have astounded his viewers in 41 00:02:50,319 --> 00:02:47,030 1975 Geller published his first 42 00:02:53,379 --> 00:02:50,329 autobiography my story Geller starred in 43 00:02:55,089 --> 00:02:53,389 the 2001 horror film sanitarium he 44 00:02:56,949 --> 00:02:55,099 appeared as a contestant on the first 45 00:02:59,140 --> 00:02:56,959 series of the British reality TV show 46 00:03:01,150 --> 00:02:59,150 I'm a celebrity get me out of here 47 00:03:04,750 --> 00:03:01,160 Geller co-produced the book of knowledge 48 00:03:06,190 --> 00:03:04,760 which was released in April 2008 he 49 00:03:08,559 --> 00:03:06,200 started his career as a nightclub 50 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:08,569 entertainer for smaller audiences he 51 00:03:12,729 --> 00:03:10,970 also did a show on Dutch television he 52 00:03:15,009 --> 00:03:12,739 has been studied by the world's leading 53 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:15,019 scientists including a few who worked 54 00:03:20,649 --> 00:03:17,810 with Albert Einstein hurry I had a few 55 00:03:22,210 --> 00:03:20,659 questions for you from our listeners do 56 00:03:23,830 --> 00:03:22,220 you mind if I go ahead and start with 57 00:03:25,630 --> 00:03:23,840 that no apps 58 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:25,640 solutely but you know what before you 59 00:03:30,070 --> 00:03:28,610 start yes this is very interesting 60 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:30,080 because I think that most of your 61 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:33,110 listeners are open-minded and not 62 00:03:37,930 --> 00:03:35,330 skeptics but because I'm so 63 00:03:40,449 --> 00:03:37,940 controversial and I have been 64 00:03:43,210 --> 00:03:40,459 controversial for 50 years those people 65 00:03:45,039 --> 00:03:43,220 who just think that I'm just a simple 66 00:03:46,509 --> 00:03:45,049 magician and everything is done with 67 00:03:48,789 --> 00:03:46,519 trickery 68 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:48,799 you know the Tesla's I have gone under 69 00:03:56,319 --> 00:03:53,930 through the hands of incredibly famous 70 00:03:58,750 --> 00:03:56,329 scientists like dr. Verner von Braun 71 00:04:00,280 --> 00:03:58,760 like Captain Edgar Mitchell who was a 72 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:00,290 six man to walk on the moon 73 00:04:06,550 --> 00:04:03,290 and the CIA mi5 Mossad 74 00:04:10,030 --> 00:04:06,560 let me just read out one conclusion from 75 00:04:13,210 --> 00:04:10,040 the CIA and this is from their manual 76 00:04:16,150 --> 00:04:13,220 and this is what they concluded as a 77 00:04:19,810 --> 00:04:16,160 result of Geller's success in this 78 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:19,820 experimental period we consider that he 79 00:04:25,529 --> 00:04:22,490 has demonstrated his paranormal 80 00:04:28,690 --> 00:04:25,539 perceptual ability in a convincing and 81 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:28,700 unambiguous manner and if some of you 82 00:04:34,719 --> 00:04:32,090 can't believe that the CIA concluded 83 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:34,729 this simply go to the CIA's official 84 00:04:41,290 --> 00:04:38,020 website it's there so let's put that 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:41,300 behind our back the skeptics and let's 86 00:04:48,070 --> 00:04:43,849 talk about amazing things that happened 87 00:04:49,719 --> 00:04:48,080 to me and to you listeners absolutely I 88 00:04:51,969 --> 00:04:49,729 agree with you and so our listeners 89 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:51,979 understand where early is talking about 90 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:53,840 what you do is you would go ahead and 91 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:56,570 look up CIA's a web site regarding their 92 00:05:01,000 --> 00:04:58,370 archives their library that they have so 93 00:05:03,310 --> 00:05:01,010 you'd go to CIA dot gov slash library 94 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:03,320 then you would type an aries name and 95 00:05:09,670 --> 00:05:07,130 you will see ten to eleven pages which 96 00:05:12,430 --> 00:05:09,680 is absolutely astounding regarding the 97 00:05:15,580 --> 00:05:12,440 amount of data that they have of 98 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:15,590 documents on early early thank you very 99 00:05:20,980 --> 00:05:18,289 much for being so kind as to let us know 100 00:05:23,370 --> 00:05:20,990 that information about yourself I have a 101 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:23,380 question question from one of our 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:26,570 listeners Dave Beatty who is an Emmy 103 00:05:30,899 --> 00:05:28,250 award-winning creator of the Nimitz 104 00:05:34,300 --> 00:05:30,909 Encounters movie he wants to know about 105 00:05:37,650 --> 00:05:34,310 Apple parts Apple ports can you touch on 106 00:05:39,690 --> 00:05:37,660 that subject please well you know 107 00:05:42,570 --> 00:05:39,700 this is a fascinating question because 108 00:05:46,170 --> 00:05:42,580 I'm going to a [\h__\h] slide away or bend 109 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:46,180 a little away from that exact topic but 110 00:05:52,230 --> 00:05:49,110 I'm going to talk about a very unusual 111 00:05:53,970 --> 00:05:52,240 poltergeist effect that happened and the 112 00:05:58,110 --> 00:05:53,980 reason I'm bringing this up because it's 113 00:06:01,170 --> 00:05:58,120 to do with that this question when the 114 00:06:01,970 --> 00:06:01,180 CIA tested me in Palo Alto Langley 115 00:06:04,830 --> 00:06:01,980 Virginia 116 00:06:07,860 --> 00:06:04,840 the American Naval Surface weapons 117 00:06:10,020 --> 00:06:07,870 Center in Baltimore and where they build 118 00:06:13,890 --> 00:06:10,030 nuclear weapons they Lawrence liberal 119 00:06:16,770 --> 00:06:13,900 radiation labs in Livermore something 120 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:16,780 very old happened an MI I fight the 121 00:06:24,630 --> 00:06:19,570 British Secret Service wanted also to 122 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:24,640 test me so they flew me to the UK it was 123 00:06:31,020 --> 00:06:27,490 under it quite a bit elaborate 124 00:06:34,590 --> 00:06:31,030 camouflage where they invited me to do a 125 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:34,600 TV show with a very famous presenter 126 00:06:39,330 --> 00:06:36,130 called David Dimbleby who is still 127 00:06:43,290 --> 00:06:39,340 around but parallel to that secretly 128 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:43,300 they started testing my abilities one of 129 00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:46,770 the experimenters was no other than 130 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:49,720 Professor David Bohm who was actually a 131 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:52,030 friend of Albert Einstein you know the 132 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:54,490 David Bohm effect very well known 133 00:06:59,970 --> 00:06:57,610 worldwide scientifically and something 134 00:07:03,810 --> 00:06:59,980 very odd happened a materialization 135 00:07:07,050 --> 00:07:03,820 happened and they they translated it to 136 00:07:10,860 --> 00:07:07,060 Anna port or to poltergeist 137 00:07:14,460 --> 00:07:10,870 now when those documents go to the CIA 138 00:07:17,820 --> 00:07:14,470 they also were handed to NSA National 139 00:07:21,810 --> 00:07:17,830 Security Agency that blew their minds 140 00:07:25,110 --> 00:07:21,820 and NSA decided the following they said 141 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:25,120 look if all regular can do this he can 142 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:27,930 move an object from point A to point B 143 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:32,800 what would happen if 10 irregular will 144 00:07:39,150 --> 00:07:36,250 be trained to do such a feat to make 145 00:07:42,060 --> 00:07:39,160 something disappear and I'm not kidding 146 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:42,070 you but they were planning on making a 147 00:07:49,110 --> 00:07:46,810 Russian city disappear now if it's hard 148 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:49,120 for you to swallow if it's if this is 149 00:07:54,630 --> 00:07:51,910 hard for you to believe simply go to 150 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:54,640 my website go to the NSA documents 151 00:08:01,170 --> 00:07:57,610 secret documents that were also released 152 00:08:04,140 --> 00:08:01,180 recently and it's in there it's actually 153 00:08:07,020 --> 00:08:04,150 mind blowing so I definitely believe 154 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:07,030 that the power of the mind is capable to 155 00:08:13,410 --> 00:08:10,930 do psychokinetic feats there is there's 156 00:08:14,250 --> 00:08:13,420 no doubt in my mind that a thousand 157 00:08:16,260 --> 00:08:14,260 years from now 158 00:08:20,210 --> 00:08:16,270 probably everybody will be able to 159 00:08:24,030 --> 00:08:20,220 master up or tations the teleportations 160 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:24,040 dematerialization and so forth thank you 161 00:08:30,750 --> 00:08:26,620 for covering that the next question 162 00:08:33,870 --> 00:08:30,760 comes from UFO researcher and author you 163 00:08:36,630 --> 00:08:33,880 have grant cameron working on his 164 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:36,640 contact modality book and he was 165 00:08:41,909 --> 00:08:39,250 tweeting and I noticed a question he had 166 00:08:43,860 --> 00:08:41,919 and he actually posted a link directly 167 00:08:46,170 --> 00:08:43,870 to your website regarding his question 168 00:08:48,930 --> 00:08:46,180 and so I'll go ahead and read off his 169 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:48,940 tweet and then mention your link to your 170 00:08:53,010 --> 00:08:50,770 website and then tell you why he did 171 00:08:55,410 --> 00:08:53,020 that so this is a tweet that grant 172 00:08:57,810 --> 00:08:55,420 Cameron had working on my contact 173 00:08:59,550 --> 00:08:57,820 modality book and the modality of a 174 00:09:02,760 --> 00:08:59,560 purports which was big at skinwalker 175 00:09:04,740 --> 00:09:02,770 ranch I think it is all related to the 176 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:04,750 metal supposedly falling off flying 177 00:09:09,870 --> 00:09:07,510 saucers around the world so I asked how 178 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:09,880 about it he met Hal put off and then he 179 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:11,650 went ahead and included a link directly 180 00:09:19,860 --> 00:09:16,930 to your website URI URI Geller calm the 181 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:19,870 metalbenders chapter 19 regarding 182 00:09:25,590 --> 00:09:21,760 teleportation do you have any comments 183 00:09:27,930 --> 00:09:25,600 on that early look my website is so huge 184 00:09:30,690 --> 00:09:27,940 and I urge you to go and visit it 185 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:30,700 because most of my books are available 186 00:09:38,700 --> 00:09:34,210 to read free of charge and it's loaded 187 00:09:41,670 --> 00:09:38,710 with scientific information UFOs you 188 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:41,680 name it it's all on my website so I 189 00:09:48,570 --> 00:09:45,670 can't exactly put my finger on that page 190 00:09:49,470 --> 00:09:48,580 of the book if I would only know what 191 00:09:53,190 --> 00:09:49,480 he's talking about 192 00:09:55,290 --> 00:09:53,200 I will be able to elaborate on it okay 193 00:09:58,890 --> 00:09:55,300 you know by any chance what he what are 194 00:10:01,770 --> 00:09:58,900 you read and from which book is it taken 195 00:10:05,130 --> 00:10:01,780 right so what I think he might be 196 00:10:05,639 --> 00:10:05,140 referring to is he appears to be 197 00:10:09,509 --> 00:10:05,649 referred 198 00:10:11,850 --> 00:10:09,519 - metal supposedly falling off actual 199 00:10:14,670 --> 00:10:11,860 extraterrestrial craft around the world 200 00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:14,680 and he is somehow combining your 201 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:17,680 research regarding teleportation and it 202 00:10:24,389 --> 00:10:21,040 is chapter 19 and the title of it says 203 00:10:26,999 --> 00:10:24,399 further detail of teleportation and I 204 00:10:31,079 --> 00:10:27,009 think he just wanted to know if you feel 205 00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:31,089 like it's possible that parts that are 206 00:10:38,009 --> 00:10:32,889 falling off of extraterrestrial crafts 207 00:10:40,759 --> 00:10:38,019 may have the possibility of having the 208 00:10:44,939 --> 00:10:40,769 topic of teleportation combined with yes 209 00:10:49,139 --> 00:10:44,949 okay let me talk about my teleportation 210 00:10:51,359 --> 00:10:49,149 okay experiences and encounters but let 211 00:10:52,889 --> 00:10:51,369 me start with John Lennon John Lennon 212 00:10:55,859 --> 00:10:52,899 was a very good friend 213 00:10:57,569 --> 00:10:55,869 I lived on 57th Street and First Avenue 214 00:10:59,939 --> 00:10:57,579 in New York he lived in the Dakota 215 00:11:02,160 --> 00:10:59,949 building one day he wakes me up in the 216 00:11:05,129 --> 00:11:02,170 middle of the night and he says Ori Ori 217 00:11:07,019 --> 00:11:05,139 Ori come to me I go to meet you so I 218 00:11:08,759 --> 00:11:07,029 didn't feel like jogging all the way to 219 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:08,769 the Kotter building which is on the 220 00:11:15,389 --> 00:11:11,050 other side of Central Park I said to him 221 00:11:17,869 --> 00:11:15,399 let's meet in a hotel in between so we 222 00:11:21,299 --> 00:11:17,879 met there and it was kind of shaking and 223 00:11:23,669 --> 00:11:21,309 then he tells me this most bizarre story 224 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:23,679 he says that he was lying down in his 225 00:11:31,230 --> 00:11:27,490 bed half asleep suddenly it's fear of 226 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:31,240 light appeared in front of him by by the 227 00:11:40,019 --> 00:11:36,370 foot of the bed and he kind of jumped up 228 00:11:43,650 --> 00:11:40,029 and suddenly an extraterrestrial hand 229 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:43,660 was stretched out towards him from this 230 00:11:50,129 --> 00:11:47,410 sphere of light and he was compelled to 231 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:50,139 stretch his hand and open his hand and 232 00:12:00,360 --> 00:11:56,110 this etc still hand handed him something 233 00:12:03,929 --> 00:12:00,370 that looked like a bronze egg and he 234 00:12:07,530 --> 00:12:03,939 pulls it out of his pocket in the hotel 235 00:12:10,169 --> 00:12:07,540 that we met and he says this is it this 236 00:12:14,669 --> 00:12:10,179 was given to me tonight by this crazy 237 00:12:16,889 --> 00:12:14,679 thing and he dropped it into my hand and 238 00:12:18,050 --> 00:12:16,899 I was shocked because it's a rather 239 00:12:20,390 --> 00:12:18,060 small 240 00:12:24,590 --> 00:12:20,400 that looks that like it's made from 241 00:12:27,460 --> 00:12:24,600 bronze but it's extremely heavy and he 242 00:12:30,830 --> 00:12:27,470 said to me I want you to keep it and 243 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:30,840 carry it with you all the time and very 244 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:35,310 soon after that he was murdered and I 245 00:12:41,750 --> 00:12:38,210 have that egg with me all the time I get 246 00:12:43,820 --> 00:12:41,760 hundreds if not thousands of emails from 247 00:12:47,180 --> 00:12:43,830 people from all around the world asking 248 00:12:51,110 --> 00:12:47,190 me Auri why don't you have this egg 249 00:12:54,950 --> 00:12:51,120 tested and find out from what material 250 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:54,960 it is and my answer is very simple I say 251 00:13:00,230 --> 00:12:57,810 I don't want to test this because I 252 00:13:03,020 --> 00:13:00,240 don't want to be disappointed that it's 253 00:13:06,140 --> 00:13:03,030 made in Taiwan I want to believe in John 254 00:13:10,340 --> 00:13:06,150 Lennon's words and just recently a few 255 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:10,350 weeks ago I managed to buy John Lennon's 256 00:13:17,270 --> 00:13:14,730 the only UFO drawing he drew it was 257 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:17,280 auctioned in Los Angeles and I managed 258 00:13:23,510 --> 00:13:19,530 to buy it so that's going to be 259 00:13:26,510 --> 00:13:23,520 displayed in my museum his UFO drawing 260 00:13:29,090 --> 00:13:26,520 which is a pencil drawing and the egg 261 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:29,100 and a few other items that I have from 262 00:13:35,150 --> 00:13:32,850 him so whether that egg has anything to 263 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:35,160 do with teleportation 264 00:13:42,380 --> 00:13:38,250 maybe because once a year around 265 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:42,390 December if you shake the egg it's feels 266 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:45,050 like there is something moving inside 267 00:13:52,370 --> 00:13:49,050 that lasts for about two weeks and then 268 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:52,380 that feeling Erbs away and if the egg 269 00:13:58,520 --> 00:13:56,130 becomes solid again I mean if you google 270 00:14:02,840 --> 00:13:58,530 uri geller John Lennon egg that stories 271 00:14:05,510 --> 00:14:02,850 will come up fast now teleportation yes 272 00:14:12,250 --> 00:14:05,520 listen what I'm about to tell you all is 273 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:12,260 so again so bizarre weird fantastic and 274 00:14:17,680 --> 00:14:14,760 it's like taken out of a science fiction 275 00:14:23,650 --> 00:14:17,690 movie but it it really happened to me 276 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:23,660 when I lived in New York from 1972 to 83 277 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:30,570 one day I was jogging to a shop to buy a 278 00:14:34,490 --> 00:14:31,680 binocular 279 00:14:38,930 --> 00:14:34,500 for a doctor friend of ours it was his 280 00:14:42,110 --> 00:14:38,940 birthday I bought a binocular and on the 281 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:42,120 way back to my apartment which was on 282 00:14:47,810 --> 00:14:44,250 57th Street and 1st Avenue 283 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:47,820 I stopped by our very very close friend 284 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:50,610 who is Byron Janice was an a renowned 285 00:14:56,420 --> 00:14:53,760 American classical pianist and his wife 286 00:14:59,210 --> 00:14:56,430 Maria Janice Cooper who happens to be 287 00:15:02,540 --> 00:14:59,220 Gary Cooper's daughter their film actor 288 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:02,550 and I went up to their apartment we 289 00:15:07,610 --> 00:15:05,130 chatted and then I said alright I'm 290 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:07,620 going home now I had I was holding the 291 00:15:11,570 --> 00:15:09,450 binocular in my hand it was all packed 292 00:15:14,990 --> 00:15:11,580 thing I bought it in Bloomingdale's if 293 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:15,000 I'm not mistaken as I was kind of 294 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:19,910 walking fast on 57th Street suddenly I 295 00:15:25,820 --> 00:15:23,190 looked down at the pavement and I'm no 296 00:15:28,639 --> 00:15:25,830 longer walking on the pavement and the 297 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:28,649 next thing I can remember I was flying 298 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:32,130 through the air and in front of me there 299 00:15:38,300 --> 00:15:35,850 was a scream a mesh you know those 300 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:38,310 screens to keep flies away out from 301 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:42,330 windows yes and I stretched my hands to 302 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:45,690 protect my face and I crashed into a 303 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:49,410 porch onto a round table the glass slid 304 00:15:52,940 --> 00:15:52,170 out from under my hands and I fell on 305 00:15:56,449 --> 00:15:52,950 the floor 306 00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:56,459 I for the mo for this first seconds I 307 00:16:03,199 --> 00:16:00,000 didn't realize where I was but then the 308 00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:03,209 porch looked familiar and I was in 309 00:16:09,650 --> 00:16:06,510 Ossining New York 36 miles out of 310 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:09,660 Manhattan in the house of dr. Andrew 311 00:16:16,970 --> 00:16:12,930 Puharich who was involved in bringing me 312 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:16,980 out of Israel who who had ties and links 313 00:16:23,810 --> 00:16:20,910 to the CIA there I was I started 314 00:16:26,990 --> 00:16:23,820 screaming Andrea Andrea it took him a 315 00:16:30,590 --> 00:16:27,000 few minutes to find me and I told him I 316 00:16:33,620 --> 00:16:30,600 just left Maria's apartment and he 317 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:33,630 called Maria and he says Maria Ori is 318 00:16:39,410 --> 00:16:35,850 here and she says what do you mean he 319 00:16:42,319 --> 00:16:39,420 just left our apartment so this was one 320 00:16:44,750 --> 00:16:42,329 of the most shocking teleportation that 321 00:16:45,190 --> 00:16:44,760 I've ever experienced I never had it 322 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:45,200 before 323 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:48,410 or I never had it after and it's it I 324 00:16:53,140 --> 00:16:50,570 know it happened this is why I don't 325 00:16:55,450 --> 00:16:53,150 ever way from this story I wrote about 326 00:17:00,640 --> 00:16:55,460 it in all my books I talked about it in 327 00:17:04,150 --> 00:17:00,650 documentaries so yeah I I mean what was 328 00:17:05,620 --> 00:17:04,160 that I I don't know hurry I'm really 329 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:05,630 glad you covered that and you also 330 00:17:09,370 --> 00:17:07,730 covered something very key and important 331 00:17:11,410 --> 00:17:09,380 that I had wanted to talk about later 332 00:17:14,260 --> 00:17:11,420 with you but really glad they were able 333 00:17:16,030 --> 00:17:14,270 to go into detail regarding the UFO art 334 00:17:17,439 --> 00:17:16,040 by John Lennon that everybody should 335 00:17:21,010 --> 00:17:17,449 take a look at because we're showing 336 00:17:22,770 --> 00:17:21,020 that during the interview and wanted to 337 00:17:25,329 --> 00:17:22,780 move on to the next question 338 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:25,339 regarding and also want to mention to 339 00:17:30,970 --> 00:17:27,530 our listeners by the way that wonderful 340 00:17:34,930 --> 00:17:30,980 piece of UFO art that early did acquire 341 00:17:37,510 --> 00:17:34,940 was acquired for his fantastic Museum 342 00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:37,520 which will be going into later that he 343 00:17:43,990 --> 00:17:41,360 has an old Jaffa the next question that 344 00:17:48,820 --> 00:17:44,000 grant Cameron had is have you had any 345 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:48,830 brain scans or MRIs yoke I was tested so 346 00:17:53,980 --> 00:17:51,650 many so many times again if you get on 347 00:17:56,590 --> 00:17:53,990 my website and click on what scientists 348 00:18:00,250 --> 00:17:56,600 say about aura gather you'll be shocked 349 00:18:03,580 --> 00:18:00,260 and which high caliber the scientists of 350 00:18:07,890 --> 00:18:03,590 the president scientists from nuclear 351 00:18:12,510 --> 00:18:07,900 centers scientists from hospitals 352 00:18:16,750 --> 00:18:12,520 scientists from many different arenas of 353 00:18:20,260 --> 00:18:16,760 the scientific community so I had yes I 354 00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:20,270 had brain scans and my gosh what would 355 00:18:25,660 --> 00:18:22,630 in and I have but but there is one 356 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:25,670 amazing encounter that I did have and I 357 00:18:31,690 --> 00:18:27,770 want to talk about it when I was five 358 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:31,700 years old I I was born in Israel so we 359 00:18:37,930 --> 00:18:34,970 lived in a small street of Rochelle 360 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:37,940 Boulevard called the Cholula a number 361 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:41,450 thirteen and across our small street was 362 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:44,810 a huge Arabic garden now today there is 363 00:18:52,390 --> 00:18:49,520 a big bank on that plot and I was inside 364 00:18:55,030 --> 00:18:52,400 the garden and I heard kittens cry and I 365 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:55,040 was looking for them and suddenly like 366 00:18:59,080 --> 00:18:58,880 the John Lennon story I saw in front of 367 00:19:04,660 --> 00:18:59,090 my 368 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:04,670 is a huge gigantic sphere of light and I 369 00:19:13,620 --> 00:19:08,930 just stared at it and maybe in 15 to 20 370 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:13,630 seconds a beam shot out of it and laser 371 00:19:19,930 --> 00:19:17,210 beam like very solid in tanjur will hit 372 00:19:22,390 --> 00:19:19,940 my forehead it was so powerful that it 373 00:19:25,090 --> 00:19:22,400 pushed me into the grass I don't know 374 00:19:27,130 --> 00:19:25,100 how long I lay there but I ran home and 375 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:27,140 told my mother of course she didn't 376 00:19:33,850 --> 00:19:29,210 believe me she thought that I was either 377 00:19:37,180 --> 00:19:33,860 making it up or I dreamt it or she just 378 00:19:39,580 --> 00:19:37,190 didn't believe but it was real I I know 379 00:19:41,740 --> 00:19:39,590 it happened anyhow I lived with his 380 00:19:46,030 --> 00:19:41,750 story for decades I wrote about it 381 00:19:48,550 --> 00:19:46,040 everywhere I spoke about it and then a 382 00:19:51,940 --> 00:19:48,560 little miracle happened ten years ago 383 00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:51,950 when a BBC documentary was playing in 384 00:19:59,230 --> 00:19:55,430 Israel and I was talking about that 385 00:20:04,420 --> 00:19:59,240 encounter I get a frantic email from an 386 00:20:07,660 --> 00:20:04,430 a retired airforce officer Israeli Air 387 00:20:10,540 --> 00:20:07,670 Force who says to me hurry I just saw 388 00:20:12,250 --> 00:20:10,550 this documentary and I heard you talking 389 00:20:15,370 --> 00:20:12,260 about this fear of flight and a laser 390 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:15,380 beam and let me tell you something I was 391 00:20:20,860 --> 00:20:19,430 there so I grabbed I emailed him back to 392 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:20,870 give me his phone I called him and he 393 00:20:24,790 --> 00:20:22,370 says I told him what do you mean you 394 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:24,800 were there he said to me I was a young 395 00:20:30,220 --> 00:20:27,290 soldier and I was walking on road shall 396 00:20:32,140 --> 00:20:30,230 do levar to my parents his home and on 397 00:20:33,850 --> 00:20:32,150 the right there was this huge garden and 398 00:20:37,540 --> 00:20:33,860 I saw a little boy with a white shirt 399 00:20:41,670 --> 00:20:37,550 curly hair and there appeared suddenly 400 00:20:44,470 --> 00:20:41,680 out of nowhere huge sphere strobing and 401 00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:44,480 the boy ran towards his apartment 402 00:20:50,020 --> 00:20:47,360 building and this sphere of light 403 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:50,030 followed him and when the little boy 404 00:20:55,660 --> 00:20:53,690 that wouldn't blow as me entered the 405 00:20:57,670 --> 00:20:55,670 entrance to this apartment to my 406 00:21:02,410 --> 00:20:57,680 apartment building which was only four 407 00:21:04,690 --> 00:21:02,420 floors high that mass of light exploded 408 00:21:07,660 --> 00:21:04,700 on the building and left a kind of a 409 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:07,670 darkish residue and I told this guy 410 00:21:12,899 --> 00:21:09,890 whose name is raha me I told him my 411 00:21:15,629 --> 00:21:12,909 goodness you just validated something 412 00:21:18,810 --> 00:21:15,639 so important for me because nobody 413 00:21:22,379 --> 00:21:18,820 believed this story and very soon after 414 00:21:26,099 --> 00:21:22,389 that mice the first spoon bent in my 415 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:26,109 hand when I was eating soup also it's 416 00:21:30,499 --> 00:21:28,330 important to note is that URIs mother 417 00:21:36,089 --> 00:21:30,509 believed that he developed these 418 00:21:39,060 --> 00:21:36,099 incredible powers from Sigmund Freud in 419 00:21:42,330 --> 00:21:39,070 would that be correct that you count on 420 00:21:45,060 --> 00:21:42,340 him as an actual relative oh yeah my 421 00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:45,070 name is actually my British passport 422 00:21:50,249 --> 00:21:47,529 it's aura gala Freud my mother was a 423 00:21:54,210 --> 00:21:50,259 Freud and it was Clement Freud and 424 00:21:58,379 --> 00:21:54,220 Lucian Freud the very famous painter the 425 00:22:02,460 --> 00:21:58,389 artist the artist yes they convinced me 426 00:22:04,859 --> 00:22:02,470 to leave New York in 1983 and come and 427 00:22:09,719 --> 00:22:04,869 live in England and I listened to them 428 00:22:13,169 --> 00:22:09,729 and from 1983 to three years ago we 429 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:13,179 lived in England all these years so yeah 430 00:22:17,609 --> 00:22:14,529 that's that's true 431 00:22:20,700 --> 00:22:17,619 fantastic now we have a question from 432 00:22:22,619 --> 00:22:20,710 UFO researcher Tony Bragg alia he wants 433 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:22,629 to know about your attempts at bending 434 00:22:29,719 --> 00:22:25,330 the shape-memory alloy nitinol psycho 435 00:22:33,180 --> 00:22:29,729 kinetically at the Navy Lab yes that was 436 00:22:36,389 --> 00:22:33,190 the experiments were headed by a 437 00:22:39,539 --> 00:22:36,399 scientist called Eldon bird and they I 438 00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:39,549 if I'm not mistaken the inventor of of 439 00:22:50,489 --> 00:22:43,080 nitinol was also there I believe it was 440 00:22:52,669 --> 00:22:50,499 from a Chinese descent you're right 441 00:22:55,769 --> 00:22:52,679 about me you're right about that 442 00:22:59,519 --> 00:22:55,779 remember and there were another three 443 00:23:04,200 --> 00:22:59,529 scientists from - from CIA and one from 444 00:23:06,389 --> 00:23:04,210 NASA and in front of them I didn't know 445 00:23:08,549 --> 00:23:06,399 what nitinol was of course but they 446 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:08,559 explained me they showed me a wire and 447 00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:13,450 they said to me that they're they're 448 00:23:21,629 --> 00:23:18,580 going to let me remember how he was I 449 00:23:24,719 --> 00:23:21,639 think that they were bent it with their 450 00:23:26,550 --> 00:23:24,729 fingers and they showed me that if they 451 00:23:28,860 --> 00:23:26,560 put it in hot water 452 00:23:33,630 --> 00:23:28,870 it would spring back to the original 453 00:23:36,210 --> 00:23:33,640 shape and they told me to without 454 00:23:38,580 --> 00:23:36,220 touching it it was I believe it was 455 00:23:40,860 --> 00:23:38,590 under a bell jar to concentrate on it 456 00:23:43,710 --> 00:23:40,870 and try to alter the molecular structure 457 00:23:45,870 --> 00:23:43,720 which I did took me maybe five minutes I 458 00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:45,880 didn't know what they they were waiting 459 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:47,950 for what type of outcome they were 460 00:23:52,410 --> 00:23:50,170 waiting for after five 461 00:23:55,410 --> 00:23:52,420 I mean it's they took it out of the bell 462 00:23:58,350 --> 00:23:55,420 jar and they bent it and they put it in 463 00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:58,360 boiling water and he didn't jump back to 464 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:01,840 its original shape so that's the story I 465 00:24:07,020 --> 00:24:03,690 remember to the best of my recollection 466 00:24:09,210 --> 00:24:07,030 thank you early that's a wonderful story 467 00:24:12,510 --> 00:24:09,220 and we have a question from UFO 468 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:12,520 researcher Rodrigo Vieira what do you 469 00:24:20,570 --> 00:24:17,530 think about the AAT IP / TT s a program 470 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:20,580 that stands for advanced aviation threat 471 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:23,170 identification program and to the stars 472 00:24:31,410 --> 00:24:27,850 Academy what do you think of that job I 473 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:31,420 really don't know about that but what I 474 00:24:37,020 --> 00:24:33,910 can tell you is that you know rather 475 00:24:40,050 --> 00:24:37,030 than direct they you know rather than me 476 00:24:43,130 --> 00:24:40,060 talking about whether this research goes 477 00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:43,140 on I'm so open-minded that I know that 478 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:47,200 extraterrestrial life exists I mean you 479 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:50,530 know from the movie if there was no life 480 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:52,570 out there than what a waste of space I 481 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:55,050 mean of course there is life out there 482 00:25:02,400 --> 00:24:58,450 there's life in outer space and there is 483 00:25:05,190 --> 00:25:02,410 life in inner space you know the if you 484 00:25:08,060 --> 00:25:05,200 hold a pen in your hand or a pencil the 485 00:25:10,290 --> 00:25:08,070 tip of the pencil probably also holds 486 00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:10,300 universes and cosmesis in inner space 487 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:14,640 and there's no end it's infinity both 488 00:25:19,590 --> 00:25:17,110 outwards to the cosmos there's no end 489 00:25:22,790 --> 00:25:19,600 and there's no end to inner space now 490 00:25:25,770 --> 00:25:22,800 there are so many so many endless 491 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:25,780 civilizations out there and of course 492 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:28,870 many of them are visiting us absolutely 493 00:25:33,210 --> 00:25:30,850 I believe that extraterrestrials are 494 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:33,220 walking among us listen I was very close 495 00:25:38,790 --> 00:25:36,970 to Edgar Mitchell Edgar Mitchell sixth 496 00:25:40,350 --> 00:25:38,800 man to walk on the moon he told me 497 00:25:43,230 --> 00:25:40,360 things that 498 00:25:47,250 --> 00:25:43,240 my mind my hair stands on end right now 499 00:25:52,860 --> 00:25:47,260 as I think as I remember what he has 500 00:25:55,110 --> 00:25:52,870 told me incredible things but hey I mean 501 00:25:55,919 --> 00:25:55,120 what's the big deal of course we're not 502 00:26:00,240 --> 00:25:55,929 alone 503 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:00,250 so all these research groups that are 504 00:26:06,360 --> 00:26:03,730 trying to prove and say and or and many 505 00:26:09,740 --> 00:26:06,370 of them are trying to debunk it and I 506 00:26:13,650 --> 00:26:09,750 mean sooner or later a UFO we land 507 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:13,660 openly and hopefully on the White House 508 00:26:21,770 --> 00:26:18,490 lawn and we'll all see them and all I 509 00:26:24,690 --> 00:26:21,780 can say is that I hope that a friendly 510 00:26:27,090 --> 00:26:24,700 civilization will and here I believe 511 00:26:30,750 --> 00:26:27,100 that all the extraterrestrial contacts 512 00:26:33,659 --> 00:26:30,760 and UFO sightings and abductions etc etc 513 00:26:36,060 --> 00:26:33,669 etc there are happening for decades if 514 00:26:38,370 --> 00:26:36,070 not for centuries if not for thousands 515 00:26:41,250 --> 00:26:38,380 of years because I believe that Bible I 516 00:26:43,890 --> 00:26:41,260 mean is is loaded with extraterrestrial 517 00:26:46,650 --> 00:26:43,900 stories I think that they're all 518 00:26:48,780 --> 00:26:46,660 friendly because if there weren't they 519 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:48,790 could easily destroy us with a flick of 520 00:26:55,350 --> 00:26:52,690 a finger okay thank you very much we 521 00:27:00,090 --> 00:26:55,360 have another question and grant actually 522 00:27:02,039 --> 00:27:00,100 just had his person communicate with me 523 00:27:04,830 --> 00:27:02,049 to ask you this question grant Cameron 524 00:27:06,810 --> 00:27:04,840 did he wants to know what do you think 525 00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:06,820 about grant Cameron's proposed 526 00:27:12,270 --> 00:27:09,580 experiment to test if the DNA of Trance 527 00:27:15,150 --> 00:27:12,280 Chandler actually changes when the 528 00:27:18,930 --> 00:27:15,160 channeler is in a trance as opposed to 529 00:27:20,159 --> 00:27:18,940 their normal DNA look that's a good 530 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:20,169 question 531 00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:23,950 I believe if there is a genuine Chandler 532 00:27:31,230 --> 00:27:27,220 that does bring information from an 533 00:27:34,409 --> 00:27:31,240 extraterrestrial source maybe something 534 00:27:37,049 --> 00:27:34,419 does happen to the DNA maybe to the 535 00:27:40,169 --> 00:27:37,059 cross a chromosome system maybe to the 536 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:40,179 mind maybe to the body maybe to the soul 537 00:27:46,260 --> 00:27:43,330 I'm not an expert in this I'm not a 538 00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:46,270 prophet I'm not a guru and I'm not a 539 00:27:50,940 --> 00:27:47,590 miracle worker 540 00:27:53,310 --> 00:27:50,950 all I know is that I was born a believer 541 00:27:54,030 --> 00:27:53,320 and I think that that's embedded into my 542 00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:54,040 DNA 543 00:27:59,280 --> 00:27:56,710 but I'm also religious man I believe in 544 00:28:03,150 --> 00:27:59,290 God I believe me there's a creator out 545 00:28:05,490 --> 00:28:03,160 there and ever since I was a child I'll 546 00:28:06,090 --> 00:28:05,500 never forget it when I was 3 or 4 years 547 00:28:08,340 --> 00:28:06,100 old 548 00:28:10,860 --> 00:28:08,350 my father would bring bullet heads back 549 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:10,870 home from the army he was a professional 550 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:14,770 soldier and I would fantasize that the 551 00:28:20,610 --> 00:28:18,010 bullet head is a rocket and I'm sitting 552 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:20,620 inside and I'm flying through space and 553 00:28:26,940 --> 00:28:23,410 the little garden under our house was 554 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:26,950 another planet so my gosh where did that 555 00:28:34,980 --> 00:28:30,610 information come from so I'm a huge huge 556 00:28:39,630 --> 00:28:34,990 huge believer and no skeptic can dent my 557 00:28:43,290 --> 00:28:39,640 belief system and I yeah I'm with you 558 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:43,300 all because that your listeners I think 559 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:45,310 most of them are open-minded and believe 560 00:28:51,420 --> 00:28:48,330 and I'm with you guys 561 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:51,430 wonderful I believe Frank my co-host 562 00:28:55,470 --> 00:28:53,050 wants to go ahead and ask you a few 563 00:28:57,810 --> 00:28:55,480 questions thank you yeah we're obviously 564 00:29:00,870 --> 00:28:57,820 yeah we've got a hard core following a 565 00:29:03,270 --> 00:29:00,880 big chunk of our listenership is UFO 566 00:29:06,660 --> 00:29:03,280 researchers and I know that they are 567 00:29:09,930 --> 00:29:06,670 fascinated by your direct work over here 568 00:29:12,180 --> 00:29:09,940 in the states with some UFO researchers 569 00:29:13,890 --> 00:29:12,190 and you had mentioned him already but I 570 00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,900 want to go into a little bit more detail 571 00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:16,000 about how this all came about how he 572 00:29:22,350 --> 00:29:20,230 contacted you and really helped take 573 00:29:25,260 --> 00:29:22,360 your fame to another level and that is a 574 00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:25,270 aundrea Puharich how did he first 575 00:29:29,310 --> 00:29:27,670 contact you and just what did you think 576 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:29,320 with this guy making this sort of 577 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:31,440 contact with you what was your yeah okay 578 00:29:36,990 --> 00:29:34,810 he was a maverick he was a genius he was 579 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:37,000 an amazing person we felt him and we 580 00:29:42,510 --> 00:29:39,370 found Edgar Mitchell I wouldn't be all 581 00:29:46,940 --> 00:29:42,520 regular today look before I tell you I 582 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:46,950 urge you again to get on my website and 583 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:51,600 go to books click on free books and read 584 00:29:56,700 --> 00:29:54,730 under priorities book which is available 585 00:30:00,630 --> 00:29:56,710 to read free on my website it's called 586 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:00,640 Horry by Andre porridge I mean the book 587 00:30:07,260 --> 00:30:04,090 freaks out people who don't know whether 588 00:30:07,980 --> 00:30:07,270 to believe in UFOs or not it's such a 589 00:30:10,379 --> 00:30:07,990 fantastic 590 00:30:12,180 --> 00:30:10,389 and let me tell you a little secret do 591 00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,190 you know who pushed the book through to 592 00:30:17,609 --> 00:30:15,039 double date no other than the wife of 593 00:30:21,330 --> 00:30:17,619 President Kennedy Jacqueline Kennedy 594 00:30:23,999 --> 00:30:21,340 Onassis she loved the story she loved 595 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:24,009 the book and she persuaded the head of 596 00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:25,929 Doubleday I believe his name was 597 00:30:32,070 --> 00:30:29,049 sergeant to publish the book the book 598 00:30:35,310 --> 00:30:32,080 came out it was translated into like I 599 00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:35,320 don't know 30 or 40 languages and was so 600 00:30:41,330 --> 00:30:38,279 controversial it's so it's so 601 00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:41,340 mind-blowing but I urge you to read it 602 00:30:48,989 --> 00:30:46,080 Andrea came to me through the CIA 603 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:48,999 apparently the CIA what what happened is 604 00:30:57,690 --> 00:30:53,730 this I was working for the Mossad and 605 00:31:01,200 --> 00:30:57,700 Mossad which to those who don't know is 606 00:31:05,549 --> 00:31:01,210 the Israeli Secret Service they were 607 00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:05,559 aghast in at all the information I was 608 00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:08,289 bringing to them but they didn't know 609 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:12,399 how I did it they didn't know the mine 610 00:31:19,499 --> 00:31:16,570 technology I was using and one of the 611 00:31:23,609 --> 00:31:19,509 Mossad scientists say look send him to 612 00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:23,619 the CIA let the CIA testing and you can 613 00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:26,590 actually see a CIA operative on my 614 00:31:33,450 --> 00:31:30,190 website his name is Keith green if you 615 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:33,460 go to my I think the video is on second 616 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:37,450 or third page of my home page where he 617 00:31:42,330 --> 00:31:39,610 tells a story how he got a phone call in 618 00:31:45,299 --> 00:31:42,340 Langley Virginia from an ally which was 619 00:31:49,369 --> 00:31:45,309 Israel Mossad and they said we've got 620 00:31:53,430 --> 00:31:49,379 this guy who bends metal it does amazing 621 00:31:56,190 --> 00:31:53,440 telepathy and that was the beginning now 622 00:32:00,239 --> 00:31:56,200 before the CIA took me out of Israel 623 00:32:02,609 --> 00:32:00,249 they sent Andre porridge to test me just 624 00:32:04,850 --> 00:32:02,619 to make sure that I'm not a magician or 625 00:32:08,489 --> 00:32:04,860 I'm not fooling everyone 626 00:32:11,340 --> 00:32:08,499 saundra came to Tel Aviv he rented a 627 00:32:14,159 --> 00:32:11,350 small apartment in Herzliya which is in 628 00:32:17,249 --> 00:32:14,169 the suburb of Tel Aviv and he tested me 629 00:32:21,210 --> 00:32:17,259 under controlled conditions with his 630 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:21,220 apparatus and he was mind blown I did 631 00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:21,850 all kind 632 00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:23,830 things move the hands of the watch I 633 00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:27,280 moved compass needles I materialize and 634 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:31,360 dematerialize cartridges of pens and he 635 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:35,110 freaked out he contacted the CIA and 636 00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:38,530 said to them this is this guy's real and 637 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:41,770 I left Israel in 1972 first I went to 638 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:43,710 Germany I was really scared to go to 639 00:32:50,100 --> 00:32:47,530 Palo Alto but then I spent a few months 640 00:32:53,010 --> 00:32:50,110 in Germany and then I I went over to 641 00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:53,020 America and he was helped put off and a 642 00:32:58,740 --> 00:32:56,260 russel tog who met me in san francisco 643 00:33:01,410 --> 00:32:58,750 airport and the rest is history 644 00:33:04,710 --> 00:33:01,420 and just about over a year ago the CIA 645 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:04,720 released some of the documents they were 646 00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:08,170 secret about the telepathy experiments 647 00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:10,750 i've done and you should watch this the 648 00:33:16,530 --> 00:33:13,990 secret CIA movie that sr i released 649 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:16,540 that's a great highly recommended 650 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:18,250 absolute i rewatched it in preparation 651 00:33:24,990 --> 00:33:21,730 for this show one thing that who haratz 652 00:33:27,870 --> 00:33:25,000 claimed about you is that well they 653 00:33:30,030 --> 00:33:27,880 better claim regarding himself and that 654 00:33:32,010 --> 00:33:30,040 that related to you was that and 655 00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:32,020 obviously this is why the books is are 656 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:34,270 controversial and might get people more 657 00:33:37,580 --> 00:33:35,710 interested in reading it over at your 658 00:33:39,810 --> 00:33:37,590 website but that he claimed that 659 00:33:42,690 --> 00:33:39,820 extraterrestrial beings had communicated 660 00:33:45,090 --> 00:33:42,700 to him that you were in fact the chosen 661 00:33:47,330 --> 00:33:45,100 savior of humanity and been given the 662 00:33:51,180 --> 00:33:47,340 ability to contact flying saucers and 663 00:33:53,010 --> 00:33:51,190 perform various paranormal phenomena now 664 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:53,020 at this point in time you're a young guy 665 00:33:58,470 --> 00:33:55,450 you're in your mid-20s and this is 666 00:34:00,300 --> 00:33:58,480 coming out in the book I mean how 667 00:34:03,210 --> 00:34:00,310 comfortable are you with all this being 668 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:03,220 claims about you all right it's a 669 00:34:11,580 --> 00:34:06,520 brilliant question yeah you asked it 670 00:34:13,890 --> 00:34:11,590 also the right way front look uh if I 671 00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:13,900 have to reflect on hundreds book today I 672 00:34:23,370 --> 00:34:18,250 will tell you this every and read my 673 00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:23,380 lips you can't but imagine every word in 674 00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:30,720 that book is true nothing in it was 675 00:34:39,260 --> 00:34:35,590 reported or exaggerated but here 676 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:39,270 the big but the way he translated it and 677 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:43,450 interpreted it was so mind-blowing to me 678 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:48,090 at that age that I couldn't handle it I 679 00:34:56,430 --> 00:34:52,030 couldn't absorb it I couldn't take it in 680 00:34:58,500 --> 00:34:56,440 it was too much for me I just I had a 681 00:35:02,400 --> 00:34:58,510 big showdown with priority in Ossining 682 00:35:06,090 --> 00:35:02,410 New York I said to him Andrea you got a 683 00:35:07,860 --> 00:35:06,100 you know he was so obsessed with me he 684 00:35:10,530 --> 00:35:07,870 was like my Svengali 685 00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:10,540 he was my girl he wanted to owe me 686 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:13,990 everything so he signed me on a contract 687 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:16,390 not for the money he didn't care about 688 00:35:20,970 --> 00:35:18,970 money he didn't want to lose me and 689 00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:20,980 being so young 690 00:35:24,930 --> 00:35:23,620 at that time not really having any 691 00:35:28,110 --> 00:35:24,940 financial backing 692 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:28,120 I came to America Brooke I wanted the 693 00:35:33,450 --> 00:35:30,640 Johnny Carson's I wanted to be on Merv 694 00:35:37,170 --> 00:35:33,460 Griffin I wanted to be on Mike Douglas I 695 00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:37,180 wanted the glory I was after fame and 696 00:35:44,670 --> 00:35:42,550 fortune I was on an ego trip so I'll 697 00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:44,680 never forget the day the showdown came 698 00:35:53,970 --> 00:35:50,590 it was in his Ossining house it was for 699 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:53,980 if I'm not mistaken 47 hawks Avenue in 700 00:35:58,260 --> 00:35:55,690 Ossining New York that's where sinking 701 00:36:02,850 --> 00:35:58,270 is and I lived there for a while with 702 00:36:05,850 --> 00:36:02,860 him it was yeah it was crazy grandfather 703 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:05,860 clocks took off things were smashing 704 00:36:11,850 --> 00:36:07,060 against the walls 705 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:11,860 I was unbelievable but I adhere to to 706 00:36:16,950 --> 00:36:14,650 that theory now I don't want to talk 707 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:16,960 about me being a savior and all that 708 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:19,450 because it's just not right but I am 709 00:36:26,220 --> 00:36:22,210 doing certain things that I cannot talk 710 00:36:30,510 --> 00:36:26,230 about you know there's a red line up to 711 00:36:33,510 --> 00:36:30,520 where I can talk and hopefully someday 712 00:36:36,060 --> 00:36:33,520 it will come out so I hope that answer 713 00:36:38,730 --> 00:36:36,070 is part of the question there most 714 00:36:39,930 --> 00:36:38,740 definitely and then coming up later on I 715 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:39,940 mean you've already dropped some of 716 00:36:44,820 --> 00:36:42,610 these names that I had lined up to ask 717 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:44,830 you about but there are some individuals 718 00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:47,050 who you know we've got a UFO buff 719 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:49,240 audience here so a lot of the 720 00:36:53,660 --> 00:36:51,490 names they're still active in this field 721 00:36:56,340 --> 00:36:53,670 in that one form or another 722 00:36:58,859 --> 00:36:56,350 suddenly you're working with the help 723 00:37:01,410 --> 00:36:58,869 put off and Russell Targ and they've got 724 00:37:03,270 --> 00:37:01,420 scientific experiments in the movie that 725 00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:03,280 you had mentioned the secret life of Uri 726 00:37:08,609 --> 00:37:05,590 Geller you had talked about already 727 00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:08,619 working operationally for the Mossad but 728 00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:10,270 that what these guys want to do is they 729 00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:12,720 want to test you more scientifically and 730 00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:15,190 what were your initial impressions of 731 00:37:18,450 --> 00:37:17,020 pull off and Targ when you were first 732 00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:18,460 introduced to these fellows and kick 733 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:23,200 green as well you know Russell Targ and 734 00:37:28,530 --> 00:37:26,410 how put off I never knew about them I 735 00:37:30,450 --> 00:37:28,540 knew about Edgar Mitchell because he 736 00:37:33,450 --> 00:37:30,460 sent me a signed picture of him walking 737 00:37:35,460 --> 00:37:33,460 on the moon to Israel and and I couldn't 738 00:37:39,390 --> 00:37:35,470 believe it I opened the envelope and 739 00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:39,400 there we was and he says to irregular my 740 00:37:44,010 --> 00:37:41,950 best wishes and Edgar Mitchell I really 741 00:37:46,490 --> 00:37:44,020 freaked out that I'm getting a picture 742 00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,500 from an astronaut who walked on the moon 743 00:37:50,910 --> 00:37:48,880 let me tell you something I'm sorry I'm 744 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:50,920 jumping off to Goddard Space laboratory 745 00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:53,770 but Verdun from Braun 746 00:37:59,099 --> 00:37:55,960 remember Verner von Braun was in Nazi 747 00:38:02,640 --> 00:37:59,109 yeah he started in Germany he I mean he 748 00:38:05,310 --> 00:38:02,650 was Hitler a scientist he created the v1 749 00:38:09,780 --> 00:38:05,320 in the v2 that killed people in in the 750 00:38:12,390 --> 00:38:09,790 in England but he was so clever that the 751 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:12,400 Americans brought him over to America so 752 00:38:17,010 --> 00:38:15,130 there he is taking his wedding ring off 753 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:17,020 and he says you're not gonna touch my 754 00:38:22,410 --> 00:38:19,330 wedding wedding ring but if I if you 755 00:38:24,210 --> 00:38:22,420 bend it in my palm in my in his palm I 756 00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:24,220 will believe in your powers and of 757 00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:26,710 course I put my hand over his hand they 758 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:29,230 and the bit his wedding ring totally 759 00:38:34,290 --> 00:38:30,910 bent out of shape he couldn't put it on 760 00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:34,300 his finger then happens an amazing 761 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:36,910 amazing event and this is the first time 762 00:38:41,430 --> 00:38:39,010 I'm talking about it I've never really 763 00:38:44,670 --> 00:38:41,440 said this before he took me to a back 764 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:44,680 room he again if I'm not mistaken it was 765 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:48,010 goddard space laboratory in NASA or he 766 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:49,750 could have been another laboratory again 767 00:38:54,050 --> 00:38:51,910 it's hard for me to remember because I 768 00:38:58,410 --> 00:38:54,060 was tested in so many different places 769 00:39:01,560 --> 00:38:58,420 he sits me down at the table and he puts 770 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:01,570 on the table a black attache case and he 771 00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:03,090 opens it in 772 00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,880 in it was a piece of metal to me it 773 00:39:10,220 --> 00:39:06,960 looked like metal 774 00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:10,230 it was curly at one end and he said to 775 00:39:17,570 --> 00:39:13,830 me put your hands on it and tell me 776 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:17,580 where you think this comes from so I 777 00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:20,150 placed my hand he allowed me to touch it 778 00:39:27,290 --> 00:39:23,520 it was it felt very very cold almost 779 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:27,300 like he took it out of a freezer and I 780 00:39:33,410 --> 00:39:30,510 said this is the part of the UFO and he 781 00:39:36,260 --> 00:39:33,420 said thank you or Rogalla and he shut 782 00:39:42,620 --> 00:39:36,270 that ash a case I can still hear they 783 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:42,630 took you know knobs clicking and he 784 00:39:50,740 --> 00:39:47,370 walked out of the room this is this this 785 00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:50,750 is amazing I never spoke about this um 786 00:39:54,650 --> 00:39:53,310 now what was your original question how 787 00:39:56,570 --> 00:39:54,660 I felt about how it would happen 788 00:39:58,220 --> 00:39:56,580 yeah I mean here you are I mean you're 789 00:40:01,280 --> 00:39:58,230 in your mid twenties or you're a young 790 00:40:05,180 --> 00:40:01,290 guy and all this all of a sudden now 791 00:40:06,980 --> 00:40:05,190 you're going to be I mean from seeing 792 00:40:09,670 --> 00:40:06,990 the movie I mean you've already had some 793 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:09,680 extraordinary life experiences already a 794 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:12,330 wounded combat veteran already working 795 00:40:16,970 --> 00:40:15,050 for the Mossad but here you are and land 796 00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:16,980 far from home 797 00:40:23,690 --> 00:40:19,740 basically you're being studied by these 798 00:40:25,310 --> 00:40:23,700 two fellows I mean they're had they have 799 00:40:26,450 --> 00:40:25,320 you gained your trust you know I mean 800 00:40:28,010 --> 00:40:26,460 they must have made some kind of 801 00:40:29,540 --> 00:40:28,020 positive impression on you for you to 802 00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:29,550 decide to work with them in the first 803 00:40:35,570 --> 00:40:32,940 place look they were just very nice you 804 00:40:39,050 --> 00:40:35,580 know they were smiling and welcomed and 805 00:40:43,070 --> 00:40:39,060 all that but I feared the experiments I 806 00:40:46,010 --> 00:40:43,080 was really concerned of failure I I knew 807 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:46,020 that I could perform on stage I knew 808 00:40:51,590 --> 00:40:48,450 that I I could perform for under 809 00:40:54,230 --> 00:40:51,600 prohorich because it was easygoing it 810 00:40:57,140 --> 00:40:54,240 was a rented apartment but what I 811 00:41:03,400 --> 00:40:57,150 realized I'm being filmed and watched 812 00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:03,410 and bell jars and Faraday cage I was I 813 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:06,720 was worried I didn't want I didn't want 814 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:10,050 to fail I wanted to succeed and then you 815 00:41:15,230 --> 00:41:12,570 know lo and behold every time I did 816 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:15,240 something he worked so they gave me a 817 00:41:20,050 --> 00:41:16,850 very nice feeling 818 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:20,060 they're brilliant people help put off in 819 00:41:23,950 --> 00:41:22,010 Russell Targ god bless them they're 820 00:41:27,540 --> 00:41:23,960 amazing do you know why they're amazing 821 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:27,550 because they stuck their necks out the 822 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:30,710 you know to be a scientist today if you 823 00:41:36,910 --> 00:41:34,730 go a bit UFO stuff your grants could be 824 00:41:39,490 --> 00:41:36,920 stopped you'll be ridiculed by 825 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:39,500 colleagues etc etc you know that Jack oh 826 00:41:45,970 --> 00:41:43,610 yeah so but they they they went out on 827 00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:45,980 you know on everything they said 828 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:49,250 everything and they adhere to eat until 829 00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:52,370 to this day and you know I wouldn't be 830 00:41:57,610 --> 00:41:55,010 surprised this is my opinion I wouldn't 831 00:42:00,640 --> 00:41:57,620 be surprised if they're still not 832 00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:00,650 attached somehow or maybe subliminally 833 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:03,650 to some kind of film secret agency 834 00:42:11,140 --> 00:42:08,450 government agency maybe I'm I'm allowed 835 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:11,150 to voice my opinion well of course a 836 00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:13,490 doctor put off is involved in the to the 837 00:42:17,110 --> 00:42:15,350 stars Academy he's on the board there 838 00:42:19,540 --> 00:42:17,120 he's still very active in all this and 839 00:42:21,460 --> 00:42:19,550 that's why you know I want to get those 840 00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:21,470 kind of questions in because that's you 841 00:42:24,670 --> 00:42:22,640 know that's what our fans want to hear 842 00:42:26,410 --> 00:42:24,680 you know they love this stuff so and 843 00:42:29,110 --> 00:42:26,420 also another a gentleman who was 844 00:42:32,260 --> 00:42:29,120 featured in The Secret Life of the IRA 845 00:42:34,870 --> 00:42:32,270 Geller movie was kick green of course he 846 00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:34,880 still actively involved studying the 847 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:37,730 contactees and not doing brain scans and 848 00:42:41,350 --> 00:42:39,410 so on I think that's what that might 849 00:42:41,830 --> 00:42:41,360 have prompted Grant Cameron's question 850 00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:41,840 about that 851 00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:45,020 and he was involved in all this and what 852 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:46,310 can you tell him about him about working 853 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:51,050 with him I the only time I worked with 854 00:42:58,090 --> 00:42:54,530 him was and watch that clip please on my 855 00:43:00,460 --> 00:42:58,100 website is when he held a book in 856 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:00,470 Langley Virginia and I was in Palo Alto 857 00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:02,570 now remember we're talking about the 70s 858 00:43:07,210 --> 00:43:05,240 there were no iPhones there were no no 859 00:43:09,730 --> 00:43:07,220 FaceTime there was no Twitter 860 00:43:12,010 --> 00:43:09,740 there was no Instagram there was no 861 00:43:14,410 --> 00:43:12,020 internet there was an old-fashioned 862 00:43:17,290 --> 00:43:14,420 black phone and to the white house there 863 00:43:23,380 --> 00:43:17,300 was a red phone which I used a few times 864 00:43:25,750 --> 00:43:23,390 and he said to me what can you tell me 865 00:43:28,990 --> 00:43:25,760 you they say you can see from afar I 866 00:43:30,820 --> 00:43:29,000 said he says well what am i holding in 867 00:43:32,830 --> 00:43:30,830 my hand then I say 868 00:43:34,750 --> 00:43:32,840 book and he says I'm looking at a 869 00:43:37,210 --> 00:43:34,760 picture in the book what is it so I 870 00:43:39,010 --> 00:43:37,220 started drawing drawing and I threw most 871 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:39,020 of the drawings in the trashcan but then 872 00:43:46,420 --> 00:43:43,250 I said I feel that it's something like 873 00:43:49,630 --> 00:43:46,430 scrambled eggs but what's coming in very 874 00:43:53,170 --> 00:43:49,640 strong is the word architectural and I 875 00:43:55,930 --> 00:43:53,180 wrote architectural on that page now he 876 00:43:59,920 --> 00:43:55,940 got the drawing later and he freaked out 877 00:44:02,770 --> 00:43:59,930 because he looked that the drawing was a 878 00:44:05,950 --> 00:44:02,780 picture of the brain a cut of the brain 879 00:44:07,930 --> 00:44:05,960 from some kind of fair and an anatomical 880 00:44:11,590 --> 00:44:07,940 book that he was preparing for a lecture 881 00:44:13,720 --> 00:44:11,600 and he with his own handwriting has 882 00:44:19,030 --> 00:44:13,730 written on that page the word 883 00:44:21,610 --> 00:44:19,040 architecture so you know I mean that's 884 00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:21,620 you know basically telepathy call it 885 00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:26,240 whatever remote viewing and that I 886 00:44:31,270 --> 00:44:29,930 believe impressed him tremendously yeah 887 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:31,280 and now that I thought that was very 888 00:44:34,990 --> 00:44:33,410 interesting rewatching it I'd sort of 889 00:44:36,670 --> 00:44:35,000 forgotten that segment because I first 890 00:44:38,470 --> 00:44:36,680 saw the movie a number of years ago and 891 00:44:41,050 --> 00:44:38,480 then re-watched and preparing for this 892 00:44:43,870 --> 00:44:41,060 and talking about sort of the nuts and 893 00:44:47,070 --> 00:44:43,880 bolts of psychic abilities that is a 894 00:44:50,350 --> 00:44:47,080 very interesting and fairly common 895 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:50,360 result where you kind of get the general 896 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:53,210 form of something but don't get the 897 00:44:59,410 --> 00:44:57,170 exact you don't get the the object 898 00:45:01,360 --> 00:44:59,420 exactly but you'll get the general form 899 00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,370 of it you know scrambled eggs looking a 900 00:45:06,670 --> 00:45:04,400 bit like the human brain yeah but no no 901 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:06,680 I have to correct you joke okay because 902 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:10,130 the most sorry friend in most of the 903 00:45:17,110 --> 00:45:14,000 cases I got the drawing precisely there 904 00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:17,120 was one drawing by the CIA of a bunch of 905 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:20,390 grapes and I got the same sized bunch of 906 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:23,210 grapes in Palo Alto even to the number I 907 00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:25,730 think it was 24 grapes most of my 908 00:45:30,580 --> 00:45:28,160 drawings are precise some were religious 909 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,590 drawings like they drew the devil with a 910 00:45:35,740 --> 00:45:32,720 trident I couldn't get the devil I got 911 00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:35,750 the Trident but and then I got the Ten 912 00:45:40,180 --> 00:45:38,270 Commandments coming up behind Earth so 913 00:45:43,630 --> 00:45:40,190 that was very interesting I don't know 914 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:43,640 how that translated into my mind as 915 00:45:50,690 --> 00:45:45,090 maybe a religious 916 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:50,700 a religious iconic figure that is 917 00:45:57,980 --> 00:45:55,710 negative so amazing but in most cases 918 00:46:01,250 --> 00:45:57,990 when I do telepathy not only do I get 919 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:01,260 the same drawing but I also get the same 920 00:46:09,350 --> 00:46:04,250 size to the millimeter to the millimeter 921 00:46:12,890 --> 00:46:09,360 you know chatting Frank I must tell you 922 00:46:15,050 --> 00:46:12,900 that when you say that this program that 923 00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:15,060 you're doing is kind of a target 924 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:18,240 audience no it's not it's actually for 925 00:46:24,530 --> 00:46:20,730 everyone because I don't know if you 926 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:24,540 realize but almost 76 percent of all 927 00:46:30,410 --> 00:46:27,570 Americans you know that believes are 928 00:46:33,350 --> 00:46:30,420 believers are the majority paranormal 929 00:46:35,180 --> 00:46:33,360 acceptance in America has been rising 930 00:46:38,810 --> 00:46:35,190 and rising and rising 931 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:38,820 I mean people believe in lost 932 00:46:44,510 --> 00:46:41,610 civilizations they believe in alien 933 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:44,520 encounters past and present they believe 934 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:46,770 in telekinesis they believe in 935 00:46:54,350 --> 00:46:49,110 fortune-telling they believe in Bigfoot 936 00:46:59,230 --> 00:46:54,360 and they believe in haunting spirits 76% 937 00:47:02,990 --> 00:46:59,240 of Americans believe in at least one 938 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:03,000 paranormal phenomenon this is amazing 939 00:47:12,620 --> 00:47:06,810 and if you go to the east you go to the 940 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:12,630 Far East to Japan to Taiwan to China I 941 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:16,770 mean this is accepted no big deal UFOs 942 00:47:23,810 --> 00:47:17,690 exist 943 00:47:25,370 --> 00:47:23,820 there for centuries people experience it 944 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:25,380 in one way or another I think that 945 00:47:30,590 --> 00:47:27,570 that's what puts them over you have some 946 00:47:32,030 --> 00:47:30,600 kind of an experience whatever it is so 947 00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:32,040 the proof is in the pudding and if you 948 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:34,230 experience it yourself well that that's 949 00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:35,850 what puts it over I think with with 950 00:47:39,650 --> 00:47:37,710 those people they've had some kind of 951 00:47:42,620 --> 00:47:39,660 paranormal experience during the course 952 00:47:46,460 --> 00:47:42,630 of their lives and I think that accounts 953 00:47:48,530 --> 00:47:46,470 a little bit for you know the UFO 954 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:48,540 audience sometimes skews a little bit 955 00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:51,570 dumb more mature then let's say the pop 956 00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,420 music audience and the longer you live 957 00:47:58,180 --> 00:47:56,640 the more likely you are to that to have 958 00:48:00,829 --> 00:47:58,190 something like that happen to 959 00:48:03,980 --> 00:48:00,839 and look there are millions and millions 960 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:03,990 and millions of people saw UFOs zooming 961 00:48:10,059 --> 00:48:07,290 in tremendous speeds that no airplane 962 00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:10,069 can fly no rocket flies in that speed 963 00:48:17,089 --> 00:48:13,290 zooming through our skies there enough 964 00:48:19,490 --> 00:48:17,099 UFO photographs you know thousands 965 00:48:23,030 --> 00:48:19,500 probably there are enough stories of 966 00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:23,040 abductees of people being abducted of 967 00:48:31,579 --> 00:48:27,660 UFOs landing both pilots credible pilots 968 00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:31,589 flying airplanes who has seen them so 969 00:48:38,799 --> 00:48:35,119 radar radar and radar clear evidence 970 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:38,809 credible information is available and 971 00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:42,690 there is no doubt I believe that there 972 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:46,250 are extraterrestrials walking among us 973 00:48:51,140 --> 00:48:49,050 now I there was another incident that 974 00:48:52,910 --> 00:48:51,150 was gone over in the movie a little bit 975 00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:52,920 you seemed a little hesitant at least at 976 00:48:57,290 --> 00:48:54,510 the time that the movie was produced to 977 00:49:00,680 --> 00:48:57,300 talk about it much detail but this 978 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:00,690 regarded the raid on Entebbe the rescue 979 00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:05,490 of an Israeli plane with hostages taken 980 00:49:12,289 --> 00:49:09,660 in the held in Uganda and obviously a 981 00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,299 successful military raid that got those 982 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:14,880 hostages out of there and I don't know 983 00:49:18,740 --> 00:49:16,890 it can you go into a little bit more 984 00:49:20,839 --> 00:49:18,750 detail now that it's been a few years 985 00:49:22,849 --> 00:49:20,849 since the movie was released and talk 986 00:49:24,859 --> 00:49:22,859 about your involvement in that some 987 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:24,869 people have claimed that you were 988 00:49:29,420 --> 00:49:26,730 involved in shutting down the radar 989 00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:29,430 which allowed the commandos to get 990 00:49:35,260 --> 00:49:31,680 access to the plane through the hostages 991 00:49:43,099 --> 00:49:35,270 and get them out of there a-ok yeah I'm 992 00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:43,109 sorry the part in that film the secret 993 00:49:51,380 --> 00:49:46,290 of irregular comes from I believe 994 00:49:53,230 --> 00:49:51,390 Elden bird or the producer who is victim 995 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:53,240 Jayanthi was an oscar-winning producer 996 00:49:59,900 --> 00:49:56,010 he won an Oscar for a Muhammad Ali 997 00:50:02,599 --> 00:49:59,910 documentary I cannot comment on Israeli 998 00:50:05,390 --> 00:50:02,609 stuff or go never have all I can say I 999 00:50:08,089 --> 00:50:05,400 work for the Mossad and that's that's 1000 00:50:11,190 --> 00:50:08,099 where the I draw the line okay but those 1001 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:11,200 claim is about you are out there so 1002 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:15,010 I understood understood not a problem 1003 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:16,089 not a problem 1004 00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:19,290 yeah and that what's interesting is that 1005 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:24,329 part of the the CIA released documents 1006 00:50:32,339 --> 00:50:28,810 talk about the experiments but then I 1007 00:50:34,410 --> 00:50:32,349 worked also for CIA and on and they sent 1008 00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:34,420 me on many missions and it's interesting 1009 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:39,760 how they even used me it was the idea 1010 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:42,010 brainchild of Senator Claiborne Pell who 1011 00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:44,050 was then the head of the American 1012 00:50:48,990 --> 00:50:46,570 Foreign Relations Committee he believed 1013 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:49,000 that I can convince the Russians to sign 1014 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:51,490 the nuclear arms reduction treaty so 1015 00:50:57,210 --> 00:50:54,010 what he did he sent over to London to 1016 00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:57,220 brief me ambassador Max kampelman was a 1017 00:51:04,349 --> 00:51:01,119 huge figure in Washington I believe you 1018 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:04,359 also got the president star and Max 1019 00:51:12,210 --> 00:51:09,730 kampelman briefed me and then they flew 1020 00:51:16,829 --> 00:51:12,220 me to Geneva Al Gore was there beside me 1021 00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:16,839 and I got vehicles to univer on self who 1022 00:51:22,470 --> 00:51:19,510 was a head of the Russian nuclear arms 1023 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:22,480 reduction negotiator and I bombarded his 1024 00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:27,490 mind sign sign sign and they signed so I 1025 00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:29,290 have influenced a lot of people 1026 00:51:36,059 --> 00:51:32,770 throughout my life in a positive way I I 1027 00:51:38,579 --> 00:51:36,069 don't do negative stuff I was asked to 1028 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:38,589 do very bad things but I always refused 1029 00:51:44,190 --> 00:51:41,650 God and I wonder fella where you had 1030 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:44,200 mentioned earlier a real American hero 1031 00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:46,690 and he's been an influence on me and 1032 00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:49,660 problem on what you said is he's been an 1033 00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:52,300 influence on you six men to walk on the 1034 00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:54,310 moon Edgar Mitchell wasn't for him you 1035 00:51:57,569 --> 00:51:55,930 might not like here talking to us if it 1036 00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,579 wasn't for him I probably wouldn't be 1037 00:52:00,540 --> 00:51:59,440 doing this show so what can you tell us 1038 00:52:03,089 --> 00:52:00,550 a little bit about your personal 1039 00:52:03,870 --> 00:52:03,099 impressions of Edgar Mitchell Real 1040 00:52:11,130 --> 00:52:03,880 American Hero 1041 00:52:12,839 --> 00:52:11,140 what what a beautiful soul he was and he 1042 00:52:16,859 --> 00:52:12,849 is because I believe in life after death 1043 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:16,869 that's another whole area that there's 1044 00:52:24,089 --> 00:52:19,930 no doubt that you know we don't die I 1045 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:24,099 mean our spirit our soul survives we go 1046 00:52:27,720 --> 00:52:24,970 to another place 1047 00:52:29,599 --> 00:52:27,730 to another dimension and what's amazing 1048 00:52:32,099 --> 00:52:29,609 is that so many people kind of have 1049 00:52:34,230 --> 00:52:32,109 difficulty in believing in life after 1050 00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:34,240 death and I tell them look Albert 1051 00:52:40,410 --> 00:52:37,599 Einstein proved it he proved it with the 1052 00:52:42,089 --> 00:52:40,420 very simple equation e equals MC square 1053 00:52:44,630 --> 00:52:42,099 in 1924 1054 00:52:49,170 --> 00:52:44,640 how do Tyson came out with this 1055 00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:49,180 incredibly amazing equation where he 1056 00:52:53,820 --> 00:52:51,369 proved with that equation scientifically 1057 00:52:57,180 --> 00:52:53,830 that everything in the universe is made 1058 00:52:59,750 --> 00:52:57,190 from energy your energy I'm energy the 1059 00:53:02,790 --> 00:52:59,760 phone I'm holding in my hand is energy 1060 00:53:05,130 --> 00:53:02,800 tables are energy they might feel solid 1061 00:53:08,940 --> 00:53:05,140 but there are basically energy they are 1062 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:08,950 vibrating in a certain frequency that to 1063 00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:11,650 us that they feel solid but its energy 1064 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:17,200 and then he further proved that energy 1065 00:53:22,650 --> 00:53:20,650 cannot be destroyed so you have to ask 1066 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:22,660 the question if energy cannot be 1067 00:53:27,359 --> 00:53:24,970 destroyed then what happens when we die 1068 00:53:31,890 --> 00:53:27,369 what happens to her energy so that's 1069 00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:31,900 that my afterlife explenation and edgar 1070 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:34,089 mitchell believed in it - this is why I 1071 00:53:41,310 --> 00:53:36,810 believe he is now in another dimension 1072 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:41,320 with all the other you know icons of the 1073 00:53:47,609 --> 00:53:45,130 world and the universe and so he was a 1074 00:53:50,810 --> 00:53:47,619 beautiful person 1075 00:53:55,530 --> 00:53:50,820 very very very highly intellectual 1076 00:53:57,780 --> 00:53:55,540 genius he could he taught me so many 1077 00:54:01,230 --> 00:53:57,790 things and it was a pleasant man and we 1078 00:54:04,260 --> 00:54:01,240 had in a teleportation with him at 1079 00:54:07,170 --> 00:54:04,270 Stanford Research Institute where we're 1080 00:54:10,740 --> 00:54:07,180 walking in the corridor and suddenly we 1081 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:10,750 heard something hitting the wall and on 1082 00:54:15,870 --> 00:54:12,970 the red carpet rolled a piece of metal 1083 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:15,880 and Ed picked it up didn't know what it 1084 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:18,970 was put in his pocket and then we were 1085 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:21,970 having ice cream in the cafeteria and I 1086 00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:26,410 put a mouthful of vanilla ice cream into 1087 00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:29,950 my mouth a spoonful and suddenly I feel 1088 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:32,800 that there is a mathematic object in the 1089 00:54:38,099 --> 00:54:37,330 ice cream so I spit it out and I'm kind 1090 00:54:42,049 --> 00:54:38,109 of surprised 1091 00:54:46,999 --> 00:54:42,059 is that you know what is metal doing in 1092 00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:47,009 inside my ice cream and I look at Ed and 1093 00:54:54,150 --> 00:54:50,410 Ed's face ashens 1094 00:54:59,309 --> 00:54:54,160 he picks up a piece of metal he pulls 1095 00:55:04,049 --> 00:54:59,319 out from the pocket his pocket the other 1096 00:55:07,170 --> 00:55:04,059 piece that came rolling and hitting the 1097 00:55:10,140 --> 00:55:07,180 wall in the corridor and he puts it 1098 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:10,150 together and he says my god this is my 1099 00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:15,249 typing I received it from NASA as a gift 1100 00:55:26,099 --> 00:55:20,529 and I received it five years ago and I 1101 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:26,109 lost it on a beach in Florida now that 1102 00:55:32,579 --> 00:55:27,970 would be the very definition of an app 1103 00:55:34,620 --> 00:55:32,589 or something like that absolutely and I 1104 00:55:37,769 --> 00:55:34,630 was there the John wanted a piece that 1105 00:55:40,859 --> 00:55:37,779 he gave you absolutely so you know we're 1106 00:55:42,739 --> 00:55:40,869 talking about such amazing things you 1107 00:55:47,220 --> 00:55:42,749 know I can't remember everything now but 1108 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:47,230 but we are spoken about this so many 1109 00:55:55,319 --> 00:55:50,890 times and Ed's kept that typing in his 1110 00:55:58,829 --> 00:55:55,329 safe in his home in Florida you know you 1111 00:56:02,160 --> 00:55:58,839 know that now you understand why I'm so 1112 00:56:05,609 --> 00:56:02,170 controversial I remember when I was 1113 00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:05,619 doing Johnny Carson you know I was told 1114 00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:10,569 that if I do Johnny Carson everybody we 1115 00:56:16,650 --> 00:56:12,609 believe in or we gather it's a huge show 1116 00:56:19,799 --> 00:56:16,660 in America and he was so skeptical he 1117 00:56:22,259 --> 00:56:19,809 was scoffing and sneering and I bent a 1118 00:56:25,229 --> 00:56:22,269 spoon in Ricardo montalban's hand it 1119 00:56:27,390 --> 00:56:25,239 wasn't him good enough for him and I 1120 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:27,400 thought that this is this show will 1121 00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:30,970 destroy me forever and when I finished 1122 00:56:38,009 --> 00:56:34,690 the show I went back to the hotel in Los 1123 00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:38,019 Angeles I fell on the bed devastated and 1124 00:56:42,359 --> 00:56:40,089 I said in the next morning I'm going to 1125 00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:42,369 pack up and fly dr. Israel because I 1126 00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:44,650 thought this is it the Johnny Carson 1127 00:56:50,789 --> 00:56:47,710 destroyed me next morning I get a phone 1128 00:56:52,050 --> 00:56:50,799 call from the operator and she says to 1129 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:52,060 me 1130 00:56:58,500 --> 00:56:55,330 mr. Geller I haven't Merv Griffin on the 1131 00:57:01,050 --> 00:56:58,510 line for you so I said you mean lemur 1132 00:57:05,370 --> 00:57:01,060 and Griffin she says yeah he says that's 1133 00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:05,380 that's him and I pick up the phone she 1134 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:08,230 clicks it clicks his voice on and he 1135 00:57:14,820 --> 00:57:11,050 says to me or II gather I saw you last 1136 00:57:18,930 --> 00:57:14,830 night on Johnny Carson I want you on my 1137 00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:18,940 show this week and you know that's when 1138 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:21,670 I realize that all publicity is good 1139 00:57:27,990 --> 00:57:23,770 publicity as soon as I spell my name 1140 00:57:30,450 --> 00:57:28,000 correctly and I have to go back to Oscar 1141 00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:30,460 Wilde a hundred years ago Oscar Wilde 1142 00:57:35,490 --> 00:57:33,280 said there is only one worst thing in 1143 00:57:40,980 --> 00:57:35,500 life than being talked about and that's 1144 00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:40,990 not being talked about so we're 1145 00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:43,750 believers but there are few skeptics out 1146 00:57:53,330 --> 00:57:47,470 there but the non-believers to me our 1147 00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:53,340 tiny molecular insignificant minority 1148 00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:55,570 and now let me yeah let me turn things 1149 00:57:59,910 --> 00:57:57,520 back to chant I know she's got some more 1150 00:58:01,320 --> 00:57:59,920 questions for you I do thank you very 1151 00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:01,330 much Frank that was absolutely 1152 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:04,750 fascinating and hurry I had a question 1153 00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:07,210 for you regarding the cloning of John 1154 00:58:13,950 --> 00:58:10,360 Lennon you were featured in a few 1155 00:58:16,380 --> 00:58:13,960 publications regarding your having 1156 00:58:18,090 --> 00:58:16,390 bought a lock of John Lennon's hair from 1157 00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:18,100 which if it is legal and ethical you 1158 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:20,980 planned allegedly to ask Israeli 1159 00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:23,050 scientists to clones Beatle is this true 1160 00:58:32,010 --> 00:58:29,170 and do you plan on doing that in my 1161 00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,020 opinion I just came up with this idea it 1162 00:58:40,740 --> 00:58:34,960 was a crazy idea because I do have his 1163 00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:40,750 hair now I I doubt that I will do 1164 00:58:44,250 --> 00:58:43,510 something of this nature the are you 1165 00:58:50,670 --> 00:58:44,260 with me by the way 1166 00:58:53,450 --> 00:58:50,680 oh I doubt this nature but you never 1167 00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:53,460 know time goes by you never know what 1168 00:59:00,090 --> 00:58:57,370 science can bring about and so for so so 1169 00:59:01,770 --> 00:59:00,100 the question yes and I'm sorry actually 1170 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:01,780 I interjected while you were talking 1171 00:59:05,070 --> 00:59:03,970 because I you broke up for a moment and 1172 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:05,080 I didn't care you but thank you for 1173 00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:05,770 actually 1174 00:59:12,180 --> 00:59:07,690 attending to that question the other 1175 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:12,190 question I had for you is and I have a 1176 00:59:17,370 --> 00:59:15,010 few but I'll be very fast are you in 1177 00:59:22,550 --> 00:59:17,380 communication with extraterrestrials or 1178 00:59:27,590 --> 00:59:22,560 do you feel you ever have been no doubt 1179 00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:27,600 through very strange means and ways and 1180 00:59:34,980 --> 00:59:31,090 yeah I'm a believer and I rather not 1181 00:59:37,410 --> 00:59:34,990 talk about my connection to Exeter SGA's 1182 00:59:38,130 --> 00:59:37,420 because he's a reason that I cannot talk 1183 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:38,140 about it 1184 00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:41,800 okay solid reason understood the other 1185 00:59:46,470 --> 00:59:43,510 question I wanted to ask you about is 1186 00:59:50,150 --> 00:59:46,480 that wonderful piece of UFO art by John 1187 00:59:54,450 --> 00:59:50,160 Lennon what is your interpretation of it 1188 00:59:57,800 --> 00:59:54,460 my feeling is that he actually really 1189 01:00:02,850 --> 00:59:57,810 got it from an exageration source 1190 01:00:08,730 --> 01:00:02,860 there's no doubt in my mind again there 1191 01:00:11,690 --> 01:00:08,740 is a tiny tiny percent maybe 99.99 I I 1192 01:00:15,300 --> 01:00:11,700 believe but there's always that little 1193 01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:15,310 doubt in me that maybe I'm wrong maybe 1194 01:00:24,230 --> 01:00:19,680 he pulled something on me you know I 1195 01:00:32,390 --> 01:00:29,460 I see thank you for answering that and 1196 01:00:35,250 --> 01:00:32,400 then I did also want to ask you about 1197 01:00:38,070 --> 01:00:35,260 UFOs and consciousness which is a huge 1198 01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:38,080 topic in the UFO community it's a rather 1199 01:00:44,670 --> 01:00:42,490 broad topic but I wanted to ask you if 1200 01:00:46,890 --> 01:00:44,680 you feel like commenting in in any 1201 01:00:49,590 --> 01:00:46,900 perspective with regards to UFOs in 1202 01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:49,600 consciousness meaning extraterrestrial 1203 01:00:56,310 --> 01:00:52,000 craft and consciousness I'll give you an 1204 01:01:00,050 --> 01:00:56,320 example Stanton Friedman had studied the 1205 01:01:02,490 --> 01:01:00,060 Betty the Betty and Barney Hill case 1206 01:01:04,470 --> 01:01:02,500 exclusively and through his 1207 01:01:07,609 --> 01:01:04,480 investigation he found out that Barney 1208 01:01:10,830 --> 01:01:07,619 Hill had felt he had been telepathically 1209 01:01:13,890 --> 01:01:10,840 in communication with aliens that had 1210 01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:13,900 landed and that's an iconic case 1211 01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:16,480 everybody is pretty aware of I wanted to 1212 01:01:19,470 --> 01:01:18,970 know do you feel like consciousness and 1213 01:01:22,650 --> 01:01:19,480 extra tree 1214 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:22,660 between humans exists and if so can you 1215 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:24,450 give us a little bit of input on that 1216 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:27,970 yeah I definitely believe in its because 1217 01:01:34,050 --> 01:01:31,690 look if we have to explain or decipher 1218 01:01:38,070 --> 01:01:34,060 what consciousness is basically 1219 01:01:43,590 --> 01:01:38,080 consciousness is the state or quality of 1220 01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:43,600 awareness or of being aware of an 1221 01:01:50,690 --> 01:01:46,480 external object or something within 1222 01:01:56,670 --> 01:01:50,700 oneself and it has been defined as 1223 01:01:59,870 --> 01:01:56,680 sentience awareness it has been it's the 1224 01:02:03,359 --> 01:01:59,880 ability to experience or to feel 1225 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:03,369 wakefulness having a sense of self-rule 1226 01:02:10,550 --> 01:02:06,850 and the executive control of the mind 1227 01:02:13,710 --> 01:02:10,560 and there's no doubt that 1228 01:02:18,450 --> 01:02:13,720 extraterrestrial energy extraterrestrial 1229 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:18,460 contact Exeter SL telepathy can 1230 01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:21,130 penetrate our consciousness if that 1231 01:02:26,970 --> 01:02:22,450 answers the question 1232 01:02:30,359 --> 01:02:26,980 it does I also wanted this a little bit 1233 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:30,369 going back to a doctor for Irish you 1234 01:02:37,050 --> 01:02:33,490 let's see gonna go through my notes here 1235 01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:37,060 but at one point he talked about both he 1236 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:39,670 and you communicating with super 1237 01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:42,250 intelligent computers or what do you 1238 01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:44,980 think technology might hold for us in 1239 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:47,710 terms of a psychic ability there do you 1240 01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:49,450 think there's some enhancement I know 1241 01:02:54,450 --> 01:02:52,690 going back earlier a good decade before 1242 01:02:57,090 --> 01:02:54,460 he met you he was there very much 1243 01:02:58,730 --> 01:02:57,100 involved in the studying psychedelic 1244 01:03:01,260 --> 01:02:58,740 mushrooms I know you don't recommend 1245 01:03:03,540 --> 01:03:01,270 drug use as part of it enhancing the 1246 01:03:05,580 --> 01:03:03,550 ability now what about technology and 1247 01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:05,590 the future that might hold for psychic 1248 01:03:13,070 --> 01:03:10,960 ability you know I would like to go into 1249 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:13,080 something much bigger than psychic 1250 01:03:25,980 --> 01:03:16,210 ability if you look at the state or 1251 01:03:29,450 --> 01:03:25,990 planet is the Desai's the Sun wars that 1252 01:03:32,970 --> 01:03:29,460 are raging in the neighborhood that you 1253 01:03:36,250 --> 01:03:32,980 beside beside 1254 01:03:38,380 --> 01:03:36,260 they are still raging I mean you know 1255 01:03:41,380 --> 01:03:38,390 every three seconds I mean this is 1256 01:03:45,610 --> 01:03:41,390 catastrophic but every three seconds a 1257 01:03:50,820 --> 01:03:45,620 baby dies from hunger somewhere around 1258 01:03:56,010 --> 01:03:50,830 the world and this is now this is today 1259 01:04:03,730 --> 01:03:59,370 occurrences of global warming 1260 01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:03,740 the oceans are getting higher the ice 1261 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:09,110 caps are melting the weather is getting 1262 01:04:19,540 --> 01:04:15,610 hotter the possibility of a meteorite 1263 01:04:23,590 --> 01:04:19,550 hitting our planet Earth and spinning it 1264 01:04:27,550 --> 01:04:23,600 out of control I mean those the things I 1265 01:04:31,900 --> 01:04:27,560 just mentioned are real I mean it's real 1266 01:04:38,380 --> 01:04:31,910 it could happen so if we don't find ways 1267 01:04:42,220 --> 01:04:38,390 of controlling the pollution that we are 1268 01:04:44,950 --> 01:04:42,230 emitting we're going to dry up and all 1269 01:04:48,430 --> 01:04:44,960 these science fiction films that you see 1270 01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:48,440 about the end of Earth and gigantic 1271 01:04:59,370 --> 01:04:52,610 tsunamis drowning coastal cities that's 1272 01:05:01,440 --> 01:04:59,380 going to happen something 1273 01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:01,450 extraterrestrial 1274 01:05:11,980 --> 01:05:08,260 saves us it's that simple I don't see a 1275 01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:11,990 hundred years or 200 years or even 300 1276 01:05:18,940 --> 01:05:14,890 years that we will be able to stop these 1277 01:05:23,380 --> 01:05:18,950 existing catastrophes what's gonna 1278 01:05:25,630 --> 01:05:23,390 happen is when mankind civilization will 1279 01:05:28,810 --> 01:05:25,640 realize that we can't stop it 1280 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:28,820 we're going to start traveling and feed 1281 01:05:35,380 --> 01:05:31,730 other planets we'll take off with 1282 01:05:39,010 --> 01:05:35,390 spacecrafts rockets whatever and find 1283 01:05:40,780 --> 01:05:39,020 other plants to live on like in the 1284 01:05:43,660 --> 01:05:40,790 movies there are so many movies about 1285 01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:43,670 this subject which actually segues yes 1286 01:05:48,570 --> 01:05:46,570 go ahead replace no so that's my 1287 01:05:51,180 --> 01:05:48,580 you know my main concern about our 1288 01:05:53,370 --> 01:05:51,190 beautiful climate thank you for that 1289 01:05:55,590 --> 01:05:53,380 that segues into a question I had for 1290 01:05:59,010 --> 01:05:55,600 you about metamaterials exotic alloy 1291 01:06:00,810 --> 01:05:59,020 materials which also may involve 1292 01:06:02,430 --> 01:06:00,820 cloaking with regards to 1293 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:02,440 extraterrestrial crafts having the 1294 01:06:08,070 --> 01:06:04,890 ability to do that but moving along 1295 01:06:09,330 --> 01:06:08,080 governments whether they be first world 1296 01:06:12,750 --> 01:06:09,340 governments or just governments around 1297 01:06:13,710 --> 01:06:12,760 the world being able to get within their 1298 01:06:16,110 --> 01:06:13,720 grasp 1299 01:06:20,250 --> 01:06:16,120 metamaterials from extraterrestrial 1300 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:20,260 technology reverse engineering it how do 1301 01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:22,450 you feel about that possibility that 1302 01:06:27,180 --> 01:06:24,130 there might be governments around the 1303 01:06:31,740 --> 01:06:27,190 world that have had within their 1304 01:06:34,730 --> 01:06:31,750 position both now and in the past over a 1305 01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:34,740 period of decades been able to attain 1306 01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:36,850 metamaterials from extraterrestrial 1307 01:06:42,330 --> 01:06:39,760 crafts or find exotic alloys that have 1308 01:06:44,730 --> 01:06:42,340 strange extraordinary powers to them do 1309 01:06:47,820 --> 01:06:44,740 you have any input on that well I 1310 01:06:50,220 --> 01:06:47,830 definitely believe that what dr. Verner 1311 01:06:55,170 --> 01:06:50,230 from brown showed me and allowed me to 1312 01:06:58,860 --> 01:06:55,180 touch was an extraterrestrial alloy it 1313 01:07:01,740 --> 01:06:58,870 was really honestly super cold and I 1314 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:01,750 don't know what happened to it why he 1315 01:07:07,830 --> 01:07:04,330 wanted to know this what they did with 1316 01:07:11,540 --> 01:07:07,840 this maybe I do know but I can't talk 1317 01:07:15,690 --> 01:07:11,550 about it so yes it is a possibility 1318 01:07:20,180 --> 01:07:15,700 there isn't there is that opening that 1319 01:07:25,230 --> 01:07:20,190 they use this type of material to 1320 01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:25,240 develop something that will that will 1321 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:28,270 allow us to travel through space and 1322 01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:31,930 time okay and then we just have two 1323 01:07:38,820 --> 01:07:35,310 questions left from our listeners early 1324 01:07:41,340 --> 01:07:38,830 one question is from Roxy and she wants 1325 01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:41,350 to know why was the island you bought in 1326 01:07:51,170 --> 01:07:44,170 2009 which was called the lamb important 1327 01:07:59,250 --> 01:07:55,050 first of all you know the reason I 1328 01:08:00,780 --> 01:07:59,260 bought the island is because it's 1329 01:08:08,790 --> 01:08:00,790 mysterious 1330 01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:08,800 and it's enigmatic the island has a it's 1331 01:08:16,380 --> 01:08:12,970 a magnetic center point for UFOs 1332 01:08:19,230 --> 01:08:16,390 I knew that immediately when I read 1333 01:08:23,220 --> 01:08:19,240 about the island and when I I saw the 1334 01:08:26,789 --> 01:08:23,230 island also the island claimed to be one 1335 01:08:32,490 --> 01:08:26,799 of the you know it's it's basically a 1336 01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:32,500 volcanic outcrop and there is some type 1337 01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:36,010 of an energy that emanates out of this 1338 01:08:40,970 --> 01:08:36,730 island 1339 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:40,980 I call it ley lines and the ley lines 1340 01:08:48,420 --> 01:08:44,770 reach Rosslyn Chapel and from Rosslyn 1341 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:48,430 Chapel they go straight to the pyramids 1342 01:08:55,440 --> 01:08:52,810 in Egypt and this is very interesting 1343 01:08:58,340 --> 01:08:55,450 because the connection has been known 1344 01:09:01,530 --> 01:08:58,350 for centuries you can read about it in a 1345 01:09:04,860 --> 01:09:01,540 15th century manuscript called the 1346 01:09:08,820 --> 01:09:04,870 Scottie crone by an abbot a Scottish 1347 01:09:13,050 --> 01:09:08,830 abbot his name was Walter Bower so when 1348 01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:13,060 I heard that lamp island was for sale I 1349 01:09:20,700 --> 01:09:17,170 felt a very strong instinctive urge to 1350 01:09:23,579 --> 01:09:20,710 buy it and the more I delved into the 1351 01:09:26,910 --> 01:09:23,589 history and the archaeological lore 1352 01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:26,920 which surrounds it the more certain I 1353 01:09:34,770 --> 01:09:30,000 became but this is one of the most 1354 01:09:38,039 --> 01:09:34,780 significant sites in Britain I mean this 1355 01:09:42,329 --> 01:09:38,049 is amazing this island is links not only 1356 01:09:45,539 --> 01:09:42,339 to the pyramids but to King Arthur King 1357 01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:45,549 Robert the Bruce to the ancient kings of 1358 01:09:53,670 --> 01:09:50,560 Ireland incredible and the connections 1359 01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:53,680 to to myth can only be understood by 1360 01:09:59,280 --> 01:09:56,770 tracing ley lines and those you know 1361 01:10:03,210 --> 01:09:59,290 y'all know what ley lines a mysterious 1362 01:10:06,230 --> 01:10:03,220 invisible paths which dowsers claim to 1363 01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:06,240 be able to sense a flowing 1364 01:10:11,810 --> 01:10:08,650 what-do-you-call-it lines of energy too 1365 01:10:14,009 --> 01:10:11,820 many dowsers ley lines are as real as 1366 01:10:20,370 --> 01:10:14,019 streams of underground 1367 01:10:24,569 --> 01:10:20,380 and when I was told that people actually 1368 01:10:28,919 --> 01:10:24,579 seen UFOs over land island I wasn't 1369 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:28,929 surprised so it's a beacon it's a 1370 01:10:36,359 --> 01:10:33,130 magnetic cousin cosmic some kind of an 1371 01:10:38,790 --> 01:10:36,369 energy point on our planet thank you for 1372 01:10:42,750 --> 01:10:38,800 answering that by the way I just wanted 1373 01:10:44,939 --> 01:10:42,760 to mention a Roxy our listener just like 1374 01:10:47,459 --> 01:10:44,949 many of our listeners are very well 1375 01:10:49,859 --> 01:10:47,469 educated in the area you're speaking of 1376 01:10:52,140 --> 01:10:49,869 she did mention because I actually 1377 01:10:54,839 --> 01:10:52,150 didn't read her entire question part of 1378 01:10:56,669 --> 01:10:54,849 it was was it because of the correlation 1379 01:10:58,319 --> 01:10:56,679 to the Knights Templar as you said the 1380 01:11:00,000 --> 01:10:58,329 island lies in a triangle formed by 1381 01:11:02,189 --> 01:11:00,010 three sites associated with Knights 1382 01:11:03,899 --> 01:11:02,199 Templar or was it because the forum it 1383 01:11:05,879 --> 01:11:03,909 makes with the two other islands fitra 1384 01:11:07,620 --> 01:11:05,889 and Craig's Leith which resembles a 1385 01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:07,630 layout of the Giza pyramids so I think 1386 01:11:11,759 --> 01:11:09,550 that you answered that nicely thank you 1387 01:11:14,970 --> 01:11:11,769 and then the other question I have is 1388 01:11:16,770 --> 01:11:14,980 from Brian Jackson he wants to know 1389 01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:16,780 currently what is your perspective about 1390 01:11:21,479 --> 01:11:19,150 how the CIA remote viewing program has 1391 01:11:23,180 --> 01:11:21,489 evolved do you believe intelligence 1392 01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:23,190 groups are pursuing even more esoteric 1393 01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:25,690 psychic initiatives it sounds like 1394 01:11:29,129 --> 01:11:27,730 that's two different questions I'll go 1395 01:11:31,290 --> 01:11:29,139 ahead and let you know the first one as 1396 01:11:33,569 --> 01:11:31,300 of today Ori what is your perspective 1397 01:11:37,979 --> 01:11:33,579 about how the CIA remote viewing program 1398 01:11:39,959 --> 01:11:37,989 has evolved every intelligence service 1399 01:11:44,939 --> 01:11:39,969 in the world I'm talking about the major 1400 01:11:49,709 --> 01:11:44,949 ones America Russia China Spain Germany 1401 01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:49,719 Italy Britain they all engage remote 1402 01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:53,110 viewers because remote viewers can bring 1403 01:12:02,029 --> 01:11:57,610 in incredibly valid information that 1404 01:12:04,770 --> 01:12:02,039 although our satellites are immensely 1405 01:12:07,589 --> 01:12:04,780 technologically evolved in the Europe 1406 01:12:09,989 --> 01:12:07,599 they can see through clouds today what 1407 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:09,999 you couldn't see in the 70s there's 1408 01:12:14,750 --> 01:12:13,090 still information that secret services 1409 01:12:18,660 --> 01:12:14,760 cannot put their hands on 1410 01:12:22,589 --> 01:12:18,670 therefore they use intuitive they use 1411 01:12:27,180 --> 01:12:22,599 remote viewers psychic espionage goes on 1412 01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:27,190 all the time and it's cheap you know you 1413 01:12:30,430 --> 01:12:27,840 don't have to 1414 01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:30,440 spend hundreds of millions of dollars 1415 01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:34,800 all you know to do is to take a group of 1416 01:12:41,209 --> 01:12:38,400 psychics intuitive sit them by computers 1417 01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:41,219 in a darkened room and they send their 1418 01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:43,290 mind through space and time and bring 1419 01:12:51,620 --> 01:12:46,440 back information so the answer is yes 1420 01:12:55,820 --> 01:12:51,630 it's ok and I just have two questions 1421 01:12:57,709 --> 01:12:55,830 left early and that's it and that is do 1422 01:13:01,310 --> 01:12:57,719 you believe intelligence groups are 1423 01:13:07,070 --> 01:13:01,320 pursuing even more esoteric psychic 1424 01:13:09,379 --> 01:13:07,080 initiatives by Brian Jackson I repeat 1425 01:13:12,410 --> 01:13:09,389 the question is do you believe 1426 01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:12,420 intelligence groups are pursuing even 1427 01:13:15,890 --> 01:13:14,400 more esoteric psychic initiatives I 1428 01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:15,900 believe he means the intelligence 1429 01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:18,050 community is what he's talking about so 1430 01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:19,980 I'll go ahead and rephrase it 1431 01:13:26,030 --> 01:13:23,310 do you believe intelligence groups in 1432 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:26,040 the intelligence community are pursuing 1433 01:13:34,450 --> 01:13:28,530 even more esoteric psychic initiatives 1434 01:13:39,260 --> 01:13:34,460 of course but it's all gone deep black 1435 01:13:41,149 --> 01:13:39,270 it's no publicity you won't find it in 1436 01:13:46,010 --> 01:13:41,159 the Washington Post or in the New York 1437 01:13:49,010 --> 01:13:46,020 Times stop top secret what they're doing 1438 01:13:49,729 --> 01:13:49,020 and they have to because the enemy is 1439 01:13:55,879 --> 01:13:49,739 doing it 1440 01:13:59,479 --> 01:13:55,889 do you understand I mean it's incredible 1441 01:14:03,740 --> 01:13:59,489 what I know what's very interesting also 1442 01:14:06,109 --> 01:14:03,750 is that in my museum which will open in 1443 01:14:08,990 --> 01:14:06,119 seven months time I'm actually building 1444 01:14:13,010 --> 01:14:09,000 now the largest spoon in the world it's 1445 01:14:15,530 --> 01:14:13,020 gonna weigh ten tons and the length of 1446 01:14:17,180 --> 01:14:15,540 it will be 18 meters and hopefully I'll 1447 01:14:19,580 --> 01:14:17,190 be able to place it two or three weeks 1448 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:19,590 from now just before your vision comes 1449 01:14:25,459 --> 01:14:23,130 to Israel I was dancing inside there in 1450 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:25,469 my museum and you can you can see the 1451 01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:28,800 museum on my website and I felt that 1452 01:14:32,359 --> 01:14:30,960 there's something under the ground I got 1453 01:14:35,390 --> 01:14:32,369 permission from the Israeli Antiquities 1454 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:35,400 authorities to clear there the earth and 1455 01:14:41,930 --> 01:14:39,690 lo and behold we found a seven eight 1456 01:14:45,470 --> 01:14:41,940 hundred year old so fat 1457 01:14:47,450 --> 01:14:45,480 because at that time the Muslims did not 1458 01:14:50,530 --> 01:14:47,460 buy itself from Europe because it was 1459 01:14:56,290 --> 01:14:50,540 made from pig oil so this is the first 1460 01:14:59,810 --> 01:14:56,300 olive oil soap factory in all Jaffa and 1461 01:15:03,290 --> 01:14:59,820 some of their color archeologists said 1462 01:15:05,630 --> 01:15:03,300 to me well if you can can find if you 1463 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:05,640 found this what else can you find for us 1464 01:15:13,580 --> 01:15:09,050 and one of them came up to me and said 1465 01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:13,590 can you find the Ark of the Covenant now 1466 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:15,810 I mean you know the Ark of the Covenant 1467 01:15:23,150 --> 01:15:19,170 ever since the Babylonian captivity of 1468 01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:23,160 Jerusalem in the sixth century BCE their 1469 01:15:28,370 --> 01:15:25,350 whereabouts of the Ark of the Covenant 1470 01:15:30,110 --> 01:15:28,380 has been a mystery you know it has been 1471 01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:30,120 described in the Old Testament of the 1472 01:15:37,100 --> 01:15:32,850 Bible the ark served I said 1473 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:37,110 visible sign of God's presence to the 1474 01:15:42,890 --> 01:15:40,170 Israelites see it's amazing according to 1475 01:15:46,070 --> 01:15:42,900 the Bible the Ark was last known to have 1476 01:15:49,340 --> 01:15:46,080 rested I think in the Temple of Solomon 1477 01:15:53,390 --> 01:15:49,350 in Jerusalem whether it was destroyed 1478 01:15:55,490 --> 01:15:53,400 stolen moved or remained hidden after 1479 01:15:58,720 --> 01:15:55,500 the Babylonian forces conquered the city 1480 01:16:05,000 --> 01:15:58,730 and leveled the temple in I think it was 1481 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:05,010 587 BCE is not known but and in another 1482 01:16:10,610 --> 01:16:06,690 by the way in another mystery concerning 1483 01:16:13,910 --> 01:16:10,620 the Ark is its content the Ark is said 1484 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:13,920 to contain numerous sacred relics 1485 01:16:21,710 --> 01:16:17,970 including the tables of the law of the 1486 01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:21,720 law from God that Moses brought back 1487 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:23,010 from Mount Sinai 1488 01:16:31,540 --> 01:16:27,330 this is unbelievable now here is the 1489 01:16:35,170 --> 01:16:31,550 other twist the ark possessed a 1490 01:16:38,210 --> 01:16:35,180 supernatural power that awed and 1491 01:16:45,350 --> 01:16:38,220 overwhelmed those who viewed it and it 1492 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:45,360 served also as means through which God 1493 01:16:50,810 --> 01:16:49,890 could express his will now this is so 1494 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:50,820 amazing 1495 01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:52,570 so fine 1496 01:16:59,690 --> 01:16:57,010 tastic that a lot of people tell me that 1497 01:17:04,500 --> 01:16:59,700 maybe that itself was an 1498 01:17:07,440 --> 01:17:04,510 extraterrestrial energy involved with 1499 01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:07,450 the Ark of the Covenant and I'm about to 1500 01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:11,640 go out and look for it I'm gonna set out 1501 01:17:19,650 --> 01:17:15,250 probably this summer or maybe next year 1502 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:19,660 and I think I know where it is what's 1503 01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:21,250 extraordinary is I was actually going to 1504 01:17:25,860 --> 01:17:22,290 ask you about that 1505 01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:25,870 the ark and you just covered it hurry I 1506 01:17:29,910 --> 01:17:28,450 had I wanted to go over your Museum but 1507 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:29,920 she brought it up and I'm really glad 1508 01:17:33,660 --> 01:17:31,810 that you did because it's very important 1509 01:17:35,340 --> 01:17:33,670 for people to understand that you've 1510 01:17:38,370 --> 01:17:35,350 worked very hard on this museum and that 1511 01:17:41,340 --> 01:17:38,380 you're seven months away from being able 1512 01:17:43,050 --> 01:17:41,350 to finish it and it has a an 1513 01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:43,060 extraordinary collection of eclectic 1514 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:45,250 items in it do you mind 1515 01:17:48,420 --> 01:17:47,170 naming a few of the items that you plan 1516 01:17:52,710 --> 01:17:48,430 on having in your Museum 1517 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:52,720 oh the reason I'm calling it the regular 1518 01:17:58,890 --> 01:17:56,650 museum is because I'm going to display 1519 01:18:00,720 --> 01:17:58,900 gifts that I got from quite 1520 01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:00,730 extraordinary people like I work with 1521 01:18:06,530 --> 01:18:01,930 Salvador Dali 1522 01:18:13,980 --> 01:18:06,540 he gave me sculptures and the Warhol 1523 01:18:16,890 --> 01:18:13,990 painting David Bowie pika so the there 1524 01:18:20,310 --> 01:18:16,900 will be sculptures are very unusual by 1525 01:18:22,440 --> 01:18:20,320 British artists I've got the pipe that 1526 01:18:24,630 --> 01:18:22,450 belonged to Albert Einstein in an 1527 01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:24,640 amazing letter that he has written to 1528 01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:27,130 David Bohm and the reason I got the 1529 01:18:29,850 --> 01:18:28,930 letter is because I knew David Bowie 1530 01:18:33,810 --> 01:18:29,860 studied me 1531 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:33,820 I've got Freud's Sigmund Freud's pipe 1532 01:18:41,220 --> 01:18:38,890 I've got sedan Sadat's pipe there will 1533 01:18:45,450 --> 01:18:41,230 be oh in my Cadillac 1534 01:18:46,710 --> 01:18:45,460 that my Cadillac actually a 7 1976 1535 01:18:49,740 --> 01:18:46,720 Fleetwood Brougham 1536 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:49,750 it's so unusual that it stood in the 1537 01:18:55,410 --> 01:18:52,810 museum Israel for a year and from there 1538 01:18:58,230 --> 01:18:55,420 it went to the visionary Museum of Art 1539 01:19:01,640 --> 01:18:58,240 in Baltimore and from them there to many 1540 01:19:03,980 --> 01:19:01,650 other museums because I covered it with 1541 01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:03,990 2000 bent spoons 1542 01:19:09,050 --> 01:19:06,370 most of the spoons belong to 1543 01:19:14,430 --> 01:19:09,060 people like the Pope like Mick Jagger 1544 01:19:17,490 --> 01:19:14,440 like Kennedy Muhammad Ali I Michael 1545 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:17,500 Jackson I mean I can go on Elvis Presley 1546 01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:22,570 and the most extraordinary item is the 1547 01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:25,270 mascot of the Cadillac and here is the 1548 01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:27,130 story and with this we'll end the 1549 01:19:33,780 --> 01:19:31,210 interview in the early 70s Salvador Dali 1550 01:19:37,020 --> 01:19:33,790 I freaked out from my powers you know 1551 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:37,030 here already in the 30s he painted the 1552 01:19:42,620 --> 01:19:40,090 benz food so suddenly comes this young 1553 01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:42,630 guy from Israel bend the spoon cream and 1554 01:19:49,260 --> 01:19:46,090 he blows his mind because you know you 1555 01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:49,270 can only bend spoons on canvas see 1556 01:19:57,410 --> 01:19:52,570 realistically so he brings out from his 1557 01:20:00,660 --> 01:19:57,420 bedroom a beautiful rock crystal sphere 1558 01:20:02,490 --> 01:20:00,670 you know rock crystal is gorgeous and he 1559 01:20:04,650 --> 01:20:02,500 hands it to me and he says I want you to 1560 01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:04,660 have this as a gift this belonged to 1561 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:08,050 learn out of the Vinci so I smiled I 1562 01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:12,250 didn't believe him and I looked at my 1563 01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:15,250 brother-in-law he also smiled we thought 1564 01:20:18,540 --> 01:20:16,210 it was a joke 1565 01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:18,550 but I took it because it's so beautiful 1566 01:20:25,170 --> 01:20:22,780 and heavy so I can't read it into my 1567 01:20:27,870 --> 01:20:25,180 homes I put it here and I put it there 1568 01:20:31,380 --> 01:20:27,880 and in the end I decided to put it on it 1569 01:20:34,380 --> 01:20:31,390 on three bent forks which would look 1570 01:20:36,810 --> 01:20:34,390 it's the tongues of the folks would hold 1571 01:20:39,660 --> 01:20:36,820 the sphere onto the Cadillac and that 1572 01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:39,670 was a mascot of the Cadillac now listen 1573 01:20:43,710 --> 01:20:40,290 to this 1574 01:20:47,610 --> 01:20:43,720 just before I made a comeback to Israel 1575 01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:47,620 three years ago I opened the Times in 1576 01:20:53,610 --> 01:20:50,530 London and I read an interesting story 1577 01:20:57,380 --> 01:20:53,620 about alone our da Vinci painting that 1578 01:21:03,630 --> 01:20:57,390 was found in an attic of a house of 1579 01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:03,640 Jesus Christ what is Jesus Christ 1580 01:21:15,180 --> 01:21:07,810 holding in his hair my rock 1581 01:21:17,970 --> 01:21:15,190 Christian the Dali wasn't joking I don't 1582 01:21:20,100 --> 01:21:17,980 know how Dali got the crystal but 1583 01:21:22,740 --> 01:21:20,110 because he was who he was 1584 01:21:26,310 --> 01:21:22,750 somebody probably you know I don't know 1585 01:21:29,910 --> 01:21:26,320 from the Givenchy family and gave it to 1586 01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:29,920 him and he gave it to me and the reason 1587 01:21:39,510 --> 01:21:31,930 I know it's the same crystal is because 1588 01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:39,520 I screamed to my wife and it's identical 1589 01:21:45,420 --> 01:21:42,610 the painting is called Salvador Mundi 1590 01:21:49,170 --> 01:21:45,430 you can google it and the painting was 1591 01:21:54,060 --> 01:21:49,180 sold just recently for are you holding 1592 01:21:57,960 --> 01:21:54,070 are you sitting down I am I sold for 450 1593 01:22:03,450 --> 01:21:57,970 million dollars to the louver in Abu 1594 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:03,460 Dhabi amazing and I have that crystal so 1595 01:22:11,550 --> 01:22:07,650 the museum will have such eclectic and 1596 01:22:14,610 --> 01:22:11,560 interesting collection of gifts I 1597 01:22:18,210 --> 01:22:14,620 received from very unusual people 1598 01:22:22,650 --> 01:22:18,220 so listen Frank I would like to end the 1599 01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:22,660 interview by saying the following this 1600 01:22:28,260 --> 01:22:26,170 is important a few things and you can 1601 01:22:29,210 --> 01:22:28,270 keep me all until I finish what I want 1602 01:22:33,710 --> 01:22:29,220 to say 1603 01:22:37,140 --> 01:22:33,720 Albert Einstein said I know it by heart 1604 01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:37,150 this is Albert Einstein the most 1605 01:22:44,250 --> 01:22:40,450 beautiful thing we can experience is the 1606 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:44,260 mysterious it is the source of all true 1607 01:22:54,060 --> 01:22:49,210 art and science he to whom this emotion 1608 01:22:58,770 --> 01:22:54,070 is a stranger who can no longer pause to 1609 01:23:04,980 --> 01:22:58,780 wonder and stand rapt in all is as good 1610 01:23:07,650 --> 01:23:04,990 as dead his eyes are closed and Albert 1611 01:23:12,060 --> 01:23:07,660 said the only real valuable thing is 1612 01:23:17,130 --> 01:23:12,070 intuition and when I get hundreds of 1613 01:23:21,180 --> 01:23:17,140 emails a week I get about 300 a day and 1614 01:23:23,430 --> 01:23:21,190 many many come from young people who say 1615 01:23:25,470 --> 01:23:23,440 to me all mr. Geller please teach us how 1616 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:25,480 to bend the spoon because you know spoon 1617 01:23:29,190 --> 01:23:27,250 bending became iconic you know George 1618 01:23:29,610 --> 01:23:29,200 Clooney played me Robert De Niro played 1619 01:23:33,300 --> 01:23:29,620 me 1620 01:23:35,490 --> 01:23:33,310 and I know 1621 01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:35,500 I'm sounding like I'm boasting now are 1622 01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:38,710 showing off big rock band sing about me 1623 01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:41,710 and so on so when kids ask me to teach 1624 01:23:46,620 --> 01:23:44,050 you how to be in the spoon my answer is 1625 01:23:50,190 --> 01:23:46,630 is the following I say to them 1626 01:23:52,640 --> 01:23:50,200 forget spoon bending instead focus on 1627 01:23:56,190 --> 01:23:52,650 school believe in yourself 1628 01:23:59,460 --> 01:23:56,200 start thinking positive become a 1629 01:24:00,600 --> 01:23:59,470 positive thinker create a target goal to 1630 01:24:04,020 --> 01:24:00,610 go to university 1631 01:24:06,930 --> 01:24:04,030 never ever smoke never ever touch drugs 1632 01:24:09,150 --> 01:24:06,940 always think of success because if you 1633 01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:09,160 can go there with your mind you can go 1634 01:24:13,380 --> 01:24:11,110 there with your body because whatever 1635 01:24:16,230 --> 01:24:13,390 you can visualize you can materialize 1636 01:24:20,220 --> 01:24:16,240 and there's nothing that you cannot be 1637 01:24:25,470 --> 01:24:20,230 do or have because we are the architects 1638 01:24:27,750 --> 01:24:25,480 of our own lives so whatever you did 1639 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:27,760 used out of this interview at least I 1640 01:24:34,440 --> 01:24:30,250 left you with a very positive message 1641 01:24:37,650 --> 01:24:34,450 and chat and Frank god bless you 1642 01:24:40,530 --> 01:24:37,660 a big hug to you and a huge huge 1643 01:24:43,860 --> 01:24:40,540 positive energy emanating from all Jaffa 1644 01:24:46,470 --> 01:24:43,870 from my heart from my mind from my soul 1645 01:24:48,690 --> 01:24:46,480 to all your listeners wherever you are 1646 01:24:52,110 --> 01:24:48,700 whether in them you're in America or 1647 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:52,120 worldwide with you come to Israel make 1648 01:24:56,700 --> 01:24:54,250 sure you email me my email address is on 1649 01:24:59,520 --> 01:24:56,710 my website and I might take you through 1650 01:25:02,430 --> 01:24:59,530 the museum alright alright thank you so 1651 01:25:05,220 --> 01:25:02,440 very much and happy Easter to you like I 1652 01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:05,230 said this was a fantastic Easter basket 1653 01:25:08,640 --> 01:25:07,090 for all the listeners and I would like 1654 01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:08,650 to tell the listeners to please go to 1655 01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:11,260 regular comm earlier I did want to ask 1656 01:25:16,830 --> 01:25:13,150 you will you please come back onto our 1657 01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:16,840 show again sure you sound like two 1658 01:25:22,020 --> 01:25:20,530 beautiful people and we will do that and 1659 01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:22,030 anyone wants to email me my email 1660 01:25:28,710 --> 01:25:25,690 address is on my website again I usually 1661 01:25:31,170 --> 01:25:28,720 try to answer but it's very difficult to 1662 01:25:33,510 --> 01:25:31,180 answer you know to 300 emails a day but 1663 01:25:39,780 --> 01:25:33,520 that's what I get from from around the 1664 01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:39,790 world so god bless lots of love and tons 1665 01:25:45,899 --> 01:25:42,400 of positive energy good night thank you 1666 01:25:53,010 --> 01:25:49,350 and there we have it chant Hanna that 1667 01:25:55,229 --> 01:25:53,020 was a fantastic show I think yes it was 1668 01:25:57,600 --> 01:25:55,239 absolutely fabulous you and I were 1669 01:25:58,439 --> 01:25:57,610 talking before the show about how this 1670 01:26:00,750 --> 01:25:58,449 would be a once-in-a-lifetime 1671 01:26:02,459 --> 01:26:00,760 opportunity and we will always remember 1672 01:26:04,140 --> 01:26:02,469 this for the rest of our lives and I 1673 01:26:06,660 --> 01:26:04,150 have to concur with you on that Frank 1674 01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:06,670 I'm really touched by this interview and 1675 01:26:12,090 --> 01:26:10,480 I really feel like all of our listeners 1676 01:26:13,950 --> 01:26:12,100 have been gifted with having the 1677 01:26:17,370 --> 01:26:13,960 privilege and opportunity to listen to a 1678 01:26:18,930 --> 01:26:17,380 great man yep no doubt about it and I do 1679 01:26:21,149 --> 01:26:18,940 want to get in a little plug for our old 1680 01:26:24,540 --> 01:26:21,159 friend Danny silver from silver record 1681 01:26:26,610 --> 01:26:24,550 calm react he we had his question on the 1682 01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:26,620 list talking about the orb experience 1683 01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:29,290 and her he got to it before we had asked 1684 01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:30,730 the question so he hovered in some 1685 01:26:33,810 --> 01:26:32,350 detail there was no point in asking but 1686 01:26:37,770 --> 01:26:33,820 I did want to give a shout out to Danny 1687 01:26:40,919 --> 01:26:37,780 and so a happy Easter to everyone was 1688 01:26:42,689 --> 01:26:40,929 not expecting to work on a holiday but 1689 01:26:45,990 --> 01:26:42,699 here we are but I think it was worth it 1690 01:26:47,430 --> 01:26:46,000 yes happy holiday to everybody and we 1691 01:26:49,649 --> 01:26:47,440 thank you very much to our listeners 1692 01:26:51,870 --> 01:26:49,659 this was a big deal as soon as we 1693 01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:51,880 announced this to the UFO community that 1694 01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:54,130 we had the opportunity to interview 1695 01:26:58,830 --> 01:26:57,370 early everybody jumped in to support us 1696 01:27:02,640 --> 01:26:58,840 we want to thank you for that and we 1697 01:27:03,209 --> 01:27:02,650 look forward to another show yep we'll 1698 01:27:04,830 --> 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